Remote Instrumentation & Data Visualizations Working Group

[James Werle <>]

Very encouraging note Tim.  Thanks for taking that opportunity to 
support Muse!  Fingers crossed on the funding.  I fully concur with the 
discussion below. one thing we've certainly learned in the process of 
developing Muse to this point is that its essential to create a clear 
picture of the needs we're trying to meet and then articulating a solid 
set of functionality specifications before launching into the 
development phase.  this is the ideal time to woodshed this idea while 
we're "between programmers"!



Tim Poe wrote:
> Daniel, 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on this. I completely agree about the need to 
> make Muse a financially secure environment. To that end, I did have a 
> good dinner conversation with Doug Van Houweling at Educause about the 
> need for sustainable funding for Muse, and why I think this is vital to 
> serving the SEGPs (now providing $2,000,000 in I2 revenue). I REALLY 
> hope that we can see the proposed doubling of Muse funding in the coming 
> weeks. 
>
> Let's talk more next week. 
>
> All the best, 
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Gross, Daniel wrote:
>
> > I don’t think it hurts to talk about it. The bigger issue right now is 
> > that there is nobody who is employed for coding on Muse. It’s grown 
> > beyond a hobby to needing someone versed specifically in working on 
> > it, yet there is no money to make sure that person can eat. So part of 
> > our discussions have been around trying to find out if there is enough 
> > support from Internet2 available to help us keep the Muse framework 
> > active and growing and developing new “modules” if you will.
> >  
> > And that might be the other part of this – how much do we push into 
> > Muse, and how much do we look at some type of federated identity and 
> > SOAP type sharing that allows us to push/pull data out of other 
> > applications? i.e. Can we use the work Instructify has done (haven’t 
> > look at them yet) without having to reinvent the wheel, yet allowing 
> > one identity across the services and data to flow freely between them 
> > and be mashed up in ways beyond what we have imagined.
> >  
> > So I like the idea. But I am a bit more concerned at least in the 
> > short run about keeping Muse itself healthy and growing so that we CAN 
> > add new modules/functionality like this. Don’t think it should slow us 
> > down on the thinking side though! That way when we do get the 
> > resources, we can hit the ground running!
> >  
> > Dan
> >  
> > *From:* Tim Poe [mailto:] *On Behalf Of *Tim Poe
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:56 PM
> > *To:* Gross, Daniel
> > *Cc:* James Werle;  
> > <mailto:>
> > *Subject:* Re: Meeting today and call
> >  
> > All, 
> >  
> > When we meet next week I'd like to talk about a possible proposal. I 
> > have been talking for a while about a way for users to rate (think 
> > Amazon ratings) collaborative tools. I'm imagining using Muse for 
> > identities, and possibly looking to combine efforts with something 
> > like Instructify ( http://instructify.com/ ). The idea would be that 
> > folks with identities in Muse could provide feedback on various 
> > collaborative tools, and others could view the ratings to help them 
> > make informed decisions. We would factor in how current the ratings 
> > are, so that you can view the last six months, twelve months, etc. 
> > Does this sound like something that we could add to next week's agenda?
> >  
> > Thanks, 
> >  
> > Tim
> >  
> >  
> > On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Gross, Daniel wrote:
> >
> >
> > News to me James - I just hustled back to the office to make it for our
> > call. Thought we were "standing" on this slot on Tuesdays now?
> >
> > Fine to take off today, but I think we should continue w/ Tuesday calls.
> > We never seem to have a lack of things that need brain cycles.
> >
> > Next week I *may* have two guests from WiscNet: John Pederson and Maddie
> > Covelli. Hope to get them both involved in K20 and supporting some local
> > K20 efforts as well.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Werle [mailto:] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 PM
> > To: Tim Poe;  
> > <mailto:>
> > Subject: Re: Meeting today and call
> >
> > Hi Tim, we didn't talk specifically about doing the call today but i'm 
> > guessing not due to the holiday.  i'm offline most of the day but will 
> > give you a ring tomorrow.
> >
> > best,
> > James
> >
> > Tim Poe wrote:
> >
> > James,
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> >      
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> >     Is there a K-20 meeting today? Also, would you please call me when you
> >
> >
> >
> > have a minute?
> >
> >      
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >      
> >
> >     Tim
> >
> >      
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> >     Tim Poe
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> > time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that 
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> >  
> > - President-elect Obama
> >  
> > The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love 
> > stop at the border?
> >  
> > -Pablo Casals
> >  
> > Watch your thoughts, they become words.
> > Watch your words, they become actions.
> > Watch your actions, they become habits.
> > Watch your habits, they become character.
> > Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
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> Tim Poe
> Senior Collaborative Technologist
> MCNC - Connecting North Carolina's future today
> 3021 Cornwallis Road
> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
> Phone: 919-248-8417
> Mobile: 919-428-1216
> Fax: 919-248-8419
> Email: 
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> <http://www.mcnc.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=tim_poe.html>
> AIM: timrpoe
>
> Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other 
> time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we 
> seek. 
>
> - President-elect Obama
>
> The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop 
> at the border?
>
> -Pablo Casals
>
> Watch your thoughts, they become words.
> Watch your words, they become actions.
> Watch your actions, they become habits.
> Watch your habits, they become character.
> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
>
> -Shannon Pogue