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  • From: "Peak, Jason R" <>
  • To: "Hyzer, Chris" <>, "" <>
  • Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Loader failsafe (per-job)
  • Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:02:06 +0000

Hi Chris,

I've imagined this would be a config, not in the UI.
In our environment, this would be set once, soon after defining the job, rarely changed.

We are working towards our upgrade to 2.4, so we would love to see it as a 2.4 feature.

I will keep an eye out for the Jira ticket to be created and will follow-up & flesh-out there.


From: Hyzer, Chris []
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 6:27 AM
To: Peak, Jason R;
Subject: RE: Loader failsafe (per-job)

We could look into adding this.  Would this be a 2.4 feature?  Is it ok to be a one-off where you configure a config file, or is this a common use case that needs to be in the loader ui?  Can someone please add a jira or let me know and I will.


From: <> On Behalf Of Peak, Jason R
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Loader failsafe (per-job)


Nudging this (or should I create a Jira ticket?):

We are interested in using the loader failsafe on a per-group basis.

Before I consider rolling my own, has anyone else (as hinted in the archives) done anything in this direction ?


From: [] on behalf of Peak, Jason R []
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:26 PM
Subject: [grouper-users] Loader failsafe (per-job)

Hello Grouper users,


I'm new to Grouper, having recently joined the IAM team at Oregon State, and I'm using a recent loader issue to orient myself to the project:


Without warning, an SQL view was altered (incorrectly) such that the loader got zero results back from its query, and it (correctly) began unloading the grouper group membership.


I am aware of Fail-safe-1 and Fail-safe-2*; these are mostly what I think we need, but they both seem to work globally (applied to all loader jobs), whereas we would like to configure failsafe params per-job in order to accommodate the loading of groups with naturally volatile membership.


While I've found related threads in the archives of this list** and the grouper-dev list*** , the only mention I could find of this particular use-case, 'per-group failsafe', is in meeting notes from May 6, 2015:


Add decoration to loader group to make failsafe a per-group setting. Best to do as grouper attribute rather than loader config element. Or maybe config UI magic that can accomplish the same. Chris is communicating with Carl W @ Layfayette about what’s needed exactly.****


Since I've not been able to find any follow-up to this in the list or in the wiki, I'm here to ask:


has this been done ?

and if not, does anyone have a thought as to how this could be done?




Jason Peak




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