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  • From: Michael R Gettes <>
  • To: Jorj Bauer <>
  • Cc:
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] grouper and openldap
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:19:36 -0500
  • Ironport-phdr: 9a23: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

None that I have from this quick interrogatory.

Sorry.

/mrg

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jorj Bauer
> <>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> Any data on whether or not specific OpenLDAP back-ends made significant
> differences?
>
> -- Jorj
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:50, Michael R Gettes
>> <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I received only a few replies. Others have run into this limitation of
>> openldap not being able to support large static group objects. The problem
>> is really large numbers of multi-valued attributes (not just group
>> objects). My observation is 5 seconds to update when the group object
>> becomes greater than 35K-40K members. Apparently, openldap has to
>> regenerate the member/uniquemember attributes for the entire object each
>> time. This appears to be a known issue with openldap since at least
>> October of 2003. People have switched to using 389/sun-oracle (the
>> iPlanet derivatives) or Active Directory. There are probably other
>> directory servers able to support large group objects as well - but it
>> would appear openldap and derivates have this problem.
>>
>> i hope this helps.
>>
>> /mrg
>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Jorj Bauer
>>> <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear an anonymized roll-up of what you find. We're in early
>>> days of Grouper here and are picking a new LDAP back-end to replace our
>>> Oracle DSEE - perfect timing for us to find out what our future troubles
>>> are going to look like...
>>>
>>> -- Jorj
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 01/26/2017 09:49 AM, Michael R Gettes wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> A few months ago there was discussion around large groups for grouper.
>>>> I believe someone from either UCLA or Oregon State (or maybe some place
>>>> else) indicated they had groups of 400K. Would those people kindly
>>>> contact me off list? I have a couple of questions for you - not about
>>>> grouper perf concerns, but about non-grouper perf concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> /mrg
>>>>
>>




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