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  • From: Paul Huckins <>
  • To: "Hyzer, Chris" <>, "" <>
  • Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Newbie help (LDAP)
  • Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:23:38 +0000
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Hi Chris,

Ok, I re-installed it all. I saved every line this time and there is no
mention of how to start the data base at all.

So ps -elf | grep java says this.

0 S root 11528 1 1 80 0 - 449588 futex_ 14:59 pts/0 00:00:48
/usr/lib/java-1.7.0/bin/java -cp
org.hsqldb.Server -database.0
file:/opt/grouper/grouper.apiBinary-2.3.0/grouper -dbname.0 grouper -port 9001

I am going to assume that it is correct.

So before I get to deep into LDAP I should ask.

What is the recommended procedure for shutting this thing down and bringing
it up?

I did see the commands for tomcat.

Tomcat says I need to set CATALINA_HOME (pretty standard but I did not see
where it was done in the install procedure)


I am guessing that the best way to start it is


And reverse for shutdown

What is a clean command (rather than kill -9) to shutdown grouper (The script
that is used to start it has no stop options that I can see).

Thanks for any insight. I will post solutions as I work them out.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hyzer, Chris

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Paul Huckins;

Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Newbie help (LDAP)

When the installer ran it gave you the command to start hsql.

Here is an outdated output which is from a different folder, but something
like this:

Starting DB with command: C:\dev_inst\java\bin\java -cp
org.hsqldb.Server -database.0
file:C:\temp\grouperInstaller\grouper.apiBinary-2.0.2\grouper -dbname.0

Does that help? I recommend getting an oracle or mysql or postgres schema,
changing the and using a database that is up for

Or if you want to install again and note the commands, or try to figure it
out from the line above...


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Huckins

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Hyzer, Chris

Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Newbie help (LDAP)

All of them ?

Actually I have a more pressing problem at the moment.

I stopped Grouper (killed it at the command line) and it will not re-start
because the java data base " hsqldb" is not starting prior.

I found a script from grouper 1(dot)somthing that started the DB but started
the wrong version of it.

(here is what I did)
java -cp lib/jdbcSamples/hsqldb.jar org.hsqldb.Server -port 9001 -database.0
file:hsql/grouperHSQL -dbname.0 grouper &

Once I have my DB running and can start grouper again I need to configure an
LDAP connector so that grouper can reference my LDAP directory.

Maybe I am being to "old school" about this. Most applications have some kind
of config file that details the access to other things (like LDAP, AD or a
data base).

It almost looks like (in grouper) that when you create a group you define the
data source (LDAP info).

I have gotten so far as to find


I edited the base file (which I know is backwards of what I am supposed to
But since I cannot re-start grouper due to the hsqldb issues I cannot tell if
I am making progress with LDAP or not.

For your reply

-----Original Message-----
From: Hyzer, Chris

Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:22 PM
To: Paul Huckins;

Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Newbie help (LDAP)

There is the subject source where you get subjects from (e.g. users), Grouper
uses this to add people to groups, to know which users exist, their name,
description, attributes, etc

There is the loader where grouper reads from LDAP and makes group memberships
(or a list of groups and their memberships) [this is the mashed settings one]

And finally the pspng, where grouper will provision group memberships into an

Which are you interested in?


-----Original Message-----

On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:44 PM

Subject: [grouper-users] Newbie help (LDAP)

I am new at Grouper. I have watched some of the video tutorials.

I installed it on a RHEL7 box with java 7.

The web front end is working and I can get into it.

We have a mix of LDAP and AD here. I think I need to configure Grouper to see
both our LDAP infrastructure and our AD infrastructure but cannot seem to
find the configuration files to set that up.

There also seems to be an indication that it (LDAP configuration) is not done
with config files anymore but somehow mashed into the settings when you
create a group.

I have only been at this for a few days. Our grouper version is whatever is
most current (2.3.2 I think).

I have googled a lot and found various docs relating to config files that no
longer seem to exist.

Any sage words of advice (or a pointer at a current tutorial for said issue)

Thanks for your help

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