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  • From: Jared Hoffman <>
  • To: "Hyzer, Chris" <>
  • Cc: "Imholz, John J." <>, "" <>, Carter Schoenfeld <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] RE: Attribute Framework example
  • Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:39:18 -0500
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Our initial confusion was understanding the relationship between attribute definition, attribute name and what the attribute was attached to. As we played with the shell and UI interface we saw where the attributes were stored, but we weren't sure how it all connected.

Our use case is to add an ID number to a group to help us link it to another system. Our mistaken assumption was that attributes would appear in the group admin UI like grouper loader settings, like types. So perhaps examples of an attribute use case would help with the concept.  We don't need this attribute for every group in Grouper, but it wouldn't bother us it if was there. 

We are not concerned with attribute permissions since we're working only at the admin level, not delegated attributes at this time.

Any direction would be appreciated.


Jared & Carter

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Hyzer, Chris <> wrote:
Maybe we could start by you letting me know which parts of this document are confusing or need more information...

Or whatever questions you have and I can update the wiki.

Others welcome to comment too :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Hoffman [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Hyzer, Chris <>
Cc: Imholz, John J. <>;
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] RE: Attribute Framework example

> Hmmm, maybe we need an attribute framework training module.

Yes! Please!

We just stat down to try to figure out the attribute framework (first
time) to place some values we'd like to use when programming
memberships to another system.


On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Hyzer, Chris <> wrote:
> Hmmm, maybe we need an attribute framework training module.
> Maybe if you want to lay out your design and run it by the list we could give you comments... :)
> Seems straightforward your positions on stems.
> Yes, with 2.3 you can create a def, def name, assign, and value.
> Before 2.3 you could do everything except the def.  The documentation for the def is not yet there but again ask any questions :)
> Ok?
> Thanks
> Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Imholz, John J.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:19 AM
> To:
> Subject: [grouper-users] Attribute Framework example
> Are there other examples (other than ) of using the attribute framework ?
> I'm a little confused with that one (too many parameters seem to be the same or similar.)
> I've got an org in version 2.3 and I'd like to assign some "position" attributes to stems.  Stems could have a "state_positions" attribute indicating how many state approved positions are in that org.  Stems could also have a "hospital_positions" indicating how many positions are approved by the hospital.
> Can all of this (create def, create def name, assign with value) be done with web services?
> jji

Jared Hoffman • Associate Director for Enterprise Infrastructure
Kenyon College LBIS • 740.427.5948

Jared Hoffman  Associate Director for Enterprise Infrastructure
Kenyon College LBIS    740.427.5948

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