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  • From: Jim Fox <>
  • To: Scott Koranda <>
  • Cc: Steven Carmody <>, Grouper-Users <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] replication to Google, Phase 2 ....
  • Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:27:25 -0700 (PDT)

I assume the group in Google is used for, among other things, email
communication between students and the course instructor(s). Is that

Is there any concern that when the Google group is deleted the archive
of those email threads for the course is lost? Or is that just an
accepted constraint?

It is accepted behavior. People know that course groups and their related emails are gone after a year. We don't think of our group service as a archive.


Thanks again,


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Jim Fox

We keep a year's worth of course groups. Once a course group
is older than that it is deleted from our group service and
consequently deleted from google. And deleted from our AD.


On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, Scott Koranda wrote:

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:38:58
From: Scott Koranda
To: Steven Carmody
Cc: Grouper-Users
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] replication to Google, Phase 2 ....


I know August is a crummy time to ask leading questions since many
people are out on vacation/holiday, but if anybody is provisioning
from Grouper to Google and has thought about what to do for "delete" I
would be grateful if you could drop me a note.



We are interested to know how other campuses deal with "delete" for
groups, and
in particular course groups. In the current deployment when the course
is removed from the SOR (LDAP in this case), the loader of course removes
from Grouper. The custom provisioning code at this point does not call
the Directory
API 'delete' call for the group but instead uses the Groups Setting
API 'patch' call
to change the resource setting for 'archiveOnly' to 'true'. The
primary reason for doing
this is to not "lose" associated "buckets" of information that might
have accumulated
when the group was in use.

What approaches to "delete" for course groups are other campuses taking?


Scott K

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