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Re: [grouper-users] Hello from Jean Marie

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  • From: Tom Barton <>
  • To: THIA Jean-Marie <>
  • Cc: "" <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Hello from Jean Marie
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:08:11 -0500

THIA Jean-Marie wrote:
I am not sure how to begin in naming stems and groups for our
courses. So if anyone have an idea or practice, I'll be glad to have starting

Both Brown and Duke Universities are implementing course group management with grouper and have developed a stem and naming scheme for them. James, Shilen, would you care to explain what you decided and any rationale?

The second point is the provisioning of groups and member's list.
There is a Java API, but I am not familiar with Java, and anyway my
application is written in C# and use the .net framework. This framework
use a membership and a role provider to handle membership and group
manipulation and query. So I can write these providers to enable any
.net application in using Grouper, but I have to talk to the Java API
and the best way for this is a web service. So my question is about the
availability of a web service enabled API.

This is often requested and is in our plans. In the meanwhile, at least one grouper adopter has experimented with Apache Axis to present portions of the grouper API via SOAP. Another is intending to use ruby on rails to simultaneously provide three styles of web services interfaces: xml/rpc, REST, and SOAP. But these remain just good ideas for now, not completed work as yet.

Do you have specific functional requirements that this web services interface ought to meet? Real-world needs of yours and others will help us to determine how best to present the grouper API via web services.

A third question, as I have a very poor experience with Java. Is the
membership controlled ? When a group member list is provisioned is there
any form of control with the existence of the member. And if yes, may
all the members be in an LDAP Directory.

Could you clarify what type of control you need?

Potential members of grouper groups are presented to grouper through one or more Subject sources. There are reference implementations of the Subject API available that gather Subjects from relational databases or from LDAP directories.


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