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  • From: Tom Barton <>
  • To: Chris Hyzer <>
  • Cc: Niels van Dijk <>, "" <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] group specific help
  • Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:13:11 -0500

I agree - a generally good idea. Since the attribute framework will support such an attribute, and since this will entail giving this attribute some special status within grouper, I wonder if we should continue this thread only when we or someone starts working on an interface aimed specifically at managing roles. You know - have actual requirements drive the final design.


Chris Hyzer wrote:
Yes, that is the idea. Not sure when exactly that will be...

-----Original Message-----
From: Niels van Dijk
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:22 AM
To: Chris Hyzer

Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] group specific help

Hi Chris,

Sounds like a good idea. Especially if this is implemented as
attributes. Will the webservices expose these attributes as well?


Chris Hyzer wrote:

I opened this feature request, any thoughts?

A couple of people at CAMP wondered how people know in grouper what
the effects of assigning to users to groups or assigning grouper
privileges would have. i.e. there are tons of groups and privileges,
and maybe an admin has permission to assign lots of things, but what
are the exact things the person should do to assign access?
I think we could have a very simple way to handle this, and could be
a built-in 2nd generation attribute... It could be an attribute which
could be on groups or attributes, which holds some text (currently the
limit is 4k... maybe that is an issue, or we could suggest putting some
text and a link there). Then anyone who has "update" or "admin"
privileges on that group or attribute would see that attribute's value
in the help screen in the UI for example...
The end result would be when someone logs in who has access to make
updates, and they click on the help button in the UI, they will see
institution specific help based on what they have access to do,
potentially with links to more documentation.
I wonder if wheel group members would see all help text... leaning in
that direction...

Ps. This is not a high priority... but seems like it could be a quick
win if we have time / inclination...

Niels van Dijk
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