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  • From: "john p. streck" <>
  • To: Ben Teitelbaum <>
  • Cc: VoIP Working Group <>
  • Subject: Re: Encrypted Voice
  • Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 09:04:53 -0400
  • Organization: NC State University

Ben,
I agree with your general argument but I also agree with Tyler. I believe
you
can get both things done. The problem I see with not getting the vendors to
work on all supporting the encryption solution is that a retrofit maybe
necessary
depending on the amount of equipment/software that gets installed as more get
on board.
Just some thoughts.
cheers,
john

Ben Teitelbaum wrote:

> I am aware that there are *some* technological problems with
> encrypting real-time communications, but the bigger problems seem to
> be sociological. I have a public key that has been signed a number of
> times and is readily available on MIT's PGP key server. PGP mail
> tools are also readily available on multiple platforms. Yet in the
> past year, of over 7,000 personal email messages I received, only one
> was encrypted. If this is indicative of how much the average user
> cares about encryption, I don't think it's worth a lot of effort right
> now.
>
> Instead, I prefer a "paths in the snow" approach, where we (the
> network technologists) focus on providing connectivity among users and
> then watch to see what they do. By "providing connectivity" I mean
> not just engineering high-performance networks with end-to-end
> transparency, but also making sure that users have addresses and that
> the middleware is in place to route calls and presence information
> among them and their associated devices.
>
> I think you and I agree about the importance of encryption and I
> commend the ViDeNet community for making it a high priority. I would
> like, however, to scale up SIP reachability to *every* Internet2 user
> (approximately 5 million students, faculty, and staff), giving them
> the P2P choice of what media to exchange. The real question then
> becomes not whether we feel encryption is important, but whether they
> do.
>
> -- ben
>
> Tyler Miller Johnson
> <>
> writes:
>
> > Fatwa is far too strong a word, but I do think if we feel that
> > encryption is important and it is appropriate that we share
> > information about what VoIP (and video) vendors are supporting
> > encryption and working as a community to support those vendors. We
> > have taken this approach in ViDeNet and it has had the effect of
> > growing those vendors that support our community's target
> > technologies, but also encourages intransigent vendors to get on
> > board. This is one of the primary benefits of us working together
> > through Internet2. We call it cooperative networking, and by joining
> > together with a common voice, we can shape the development of the
> > technology better than we can singly. It is clearly a win/win approach.
> >
>
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