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  • From: "Callahan, Tim" <>
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  • Cc: "Callahan, Tim" <>
  • Subject: RE: [wg-pic] Higher Eds using jabber
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:58:20 -0400
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Thanks Jorj, that's great! That's certainly enough to get us going.

After we're done with that list, here's another idea ...
I noticed my old friends at Virginia Tech aren't on the list, so I was
curious about their server naming convention:
http://computing.vt.edu/vtim.htm

Their server is "im.vt.edu", so another search for im.<domain> may be useful,
but results would have to be parsed for non-jabber services (can we run a
bulk service discovery against a list of servers?)

Snippet from their page:
"VT IM is based on the open source Jabber protocol...
Server/Host Name: im.vt.edu
User/User Name:
[PID]@im.vt.edu
...Security: Use TLS encryption. If this is not available, use SSL
encryption. If asked for a port number, enter 5222 or 5223."

This also reminds me of something I was thinking of after the last call: as
we follow up with institutions, we should include "What's your naming
convention" in the questions. We were already considering security
questions, but we should also ask if they have secure client-server
connections, and what type.

Another survey question off the cuff - "are you member of a federated
identity group/InCommon/Are you Shibbolized/etc; are you interested in
federated IM (and perhaps why?)
-Tim

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Subject: [wg-pic] Higher Eds using jabber

I'm piggybacking off of Mark Prior's IPv6 work for a quick list of
institutions to scan. Just looking at DNS (not checking to see service
availability state), I found 49 jabber.<domain> registered hostnames and 4
xmpp.<domain> registered hostnames in .edu (and some country-specific edus,
such as edu.au). Overall, that's 15% of the edus scanned. (One has both an
xmpp and jabber hostname.)

Mark's work (http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html) goes outside of the
Internet2 membership a bit. I've run against his whole list, and the overall
stats are 207 jabber.<domain> and 88 xmpp.<domain> - 24.5% of the domains
scanned. (This is a bit skewed, as 79 organizations have both an
xmpp.<domain> and a jabber.<domain>.)

-- Jorj




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