Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of November 1*

[ACTION] (10/25) Tim will draft a feature list for stage one of the PIC.edu
project for discussion on the November 1 call.
[ACTION] (10/25) Tim will ask SIP.edu participants for their insights on how 
to
proceed with PIC.edu.
[ACTION] (10/10) John Streck will ask Tyler and Christian at UNC to join the 
PIC
conference calls.
[ACTION] (10/4) Peter will find out if Horizon Wimba can interoperate with 
other
XMPP services, in particular whether it can do server-to-server federation.
[ACTION] (7/12) Deke and Mark will prepare a simple demo of pseudonymity in
Jabber chatrooms, for a PIC call this fall.
[ACTION] (7/12) Jonathan will recruit Tom Uram to join a PIC call.

*Attendees*

Tim Callahan (chair) - Michigan
Jorj Bauer - Penn
Rodney McDuff - Queensland
Randy Stout - Kansas Board of Regents
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group discussed what to include in stage one of the PIC.edu project. There
was general agreement on:
- choosing a single XMPP server to work with. Rodney noted that MAMS has 
already
Shibbolized jabberd 1.4, but suggested that OpenFire would be a better choice
for PIC.edu.
- a list of recommended XMPP clients. Ben suggested that we pick a single 
client
to test and document extensively, then test and document several others as 
time
allows.
- basing the effort on a cookbook. There may be a packaged offering also, but
detailed how-to documentation will be the core of the effort.
- not including federated authentication in stage one, but making sure that we
don't do anything that would prevent us from adding it in stage two.
- more generally, including the ability to support the stage-two features that
we know we'll want, in the stage-one feature list.

[ACTION] Tim will draft a feature list for stage one of the PIC.edu project 
for
discussion on the November 1 call. [ACTION] Tim will ask SIP.edu participants
for their insights on how to proceed with PIC.edu.

There was also general agreement that, when we do add federated 
authentication,
we should make as much use as possible of existing work in this area. Rodney
provided several links:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/shibjim
http://www.open-ils.org/
http://open-ils.org/blog/?p=36
http://wwwlib.murdoch.edu.au/help/ask/
http://www.federation.org.au/software/minigrant2/MurdochProjPlanAug06.pdf
Rodney noted that eduRoam uses RADIUS for federated authentication; the group
could consider using that instead of Shibboleth.

The group discussed finding project resources; Jorj, Tim, and Rodney all know
people who may be able to help.