Presence and IntComm WG

[Ben Chinowsky <>]

*Action Items as of July 19*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (7/13) Mark will look for a reference to a dating service he's
heard about, that pops up a picture whenever someone who fits your criteria
in is the vicinity.
[ACTION] (7/13) Dennis will look for up-to-date information on iSPOTS.
[ACTION] (6/29 - in progress) Mark will try using Applescript to specify
an arbitrary presence doc to publish, with a view towards using this for a
geolocation demo.
[ACTION] (6/15) Rodger will put discussion of if and how to fix PALS and
PALS-DEV on the agenda for a future call.
[ACTION] (6/15) Rodger and Peter will look into the status of Jingle for 
Gaim.
[ACTION] (5/18) Ben T. will post the calendar-integration code (written 
by his
2005 SoC student) on the Penn XMPP server; Mark will evaluate prospects for
modifying it to drive XMPP presence.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send the PIC WG a matrix of XMPP clients to try.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send notes to assorted mailing lists, asking for
input on PIC's XMPP plan.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (5/11 - on hold for the summer) Ben T. will look for students 
active
in Place Lab to work with PIC.
[ACTION] (4/13) Rodger, Joe, Ben T., Steve, and Candace will continue 
testing
Gaim SIMPLE against pals.
[ACTION] (3/2) Joe will ask Jon Peterson to join a PIC call to talk 
about work
in IETF SIMPLE.
[ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue with 
pals-dev
testing.
[ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to present
perspectives on IMS.
[ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly to 
summarize
Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a wiki document on 
strict vs.
loose routing.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his contact at
Barracuda Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use 
cases
for federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion 
of their
proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and
NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Ben Teitelbaum (acting chair) - Internet2
Mark Sirota - Penn
Dennis Baron - MIT
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group discussed aspects of geolocation. Ben T. noted that three 
types of rich presence PIC has looked at are geolocation,
calendaring, and things that can be inferred from geolocation and 
calendaring together, like "are you in a quiet place now".
Ben T. described some of the features of past PIC demos, such as 
cross-referencing the geolocation info that tells what room
you're in with the calendar that tells what's happening in that room, to 
communicate e.g. availability for a phone call; and
using network weather measurements to provide notifications of the 
"don't bother to try video now" variety. [ACTION] Mark
will look for a reference to a dating service he's heard about, that 
pops up a picture whenever someone who fits your
criteria in is the vicinity. [ACTION] Dennis will look for up-to-date 
information on iSPOTS. Dennis called the group's
attention to the Social Serendipity project: 
http://reality.media.mit.edu/serendipity.php. An article on WiFi and
location-based services, including links to some of the companies 
involved, is at
http://gigaom.com/2006/06/30/will-wifi-jumpstart-location-based-services/.

Ben T. noted that several companies are using Google Maps to add 
geolocation info to photos at the time they're taken; Mark
observed that the standard for this (IPTC) includes a lot of 
human-processable information (e.g. city), not just latitude &
longitude.