Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of May 9*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send the PIC WG a matrix of XMPP clients to try.
[ACTION] (5/4) Steve will draft a strawman proposal for PIC's XMPP work;
others are welcome to help.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send notes to assorted mailing lists, asking for
input on PIC's XMPP plan.
[ACTION] (5/4) Deke will find out when Michael is next available for a
PIC call.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (4/13) Rodger, Joe, Ben T., Steve, and Candace will continue testing
Gaim SIMPLE against pals.
[ACTION] (3/2) Joe will ask Jon Peterson to join a PIC call to talk about work
in IETF SIMPLE.
[ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue with 
pals-dev
testing.
[ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to present
perspectives on IMS.
[ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly to summarize
Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a wiki document on strict 
vs.
loose routing.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his contact at
Barracuda Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of 
their
proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and
NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Steve Blair - Penn
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Rodger noted that the PIC and related sessions at the Member Meeting were well
attended. One topic that came up was open vs. closed SER. The situation here 
is
complex; in addition to the code branches maintained at iptel.org 
(production, a
principal experimental version, and Vaclav's experimental version, which
supports presence), there is also the OpenSER project 
(http://www.openser.org).

The group discussed how to move forward with its XMPP work. Deke has set up 
two
jabberd servers, one for production use at Penn and the other for the PIC WG 
to
experiment with. Send Deke email if you want a user account and/or shell 
access.
[ACTION] Rodger will send the PIC WG a matrix of XMPP clients to try.
[ACTION] Steve will draft a strawman proposal for PIC's XMPP work; others are
welcome to help.
[ACTION] Rodger will send notes to assorted mailing lists, asking for input on
PIC's XMPP plan.

Deke noted that Michael Gettes is available for the PIC calls on alternate
Thursdays. [ACTION] Deke will find out when Michael is next available for a 
PIC
call.