Presence and IntComm WG

[Candace Holman <>]

At 05:21 PM 6/19/2005, Steve Blair wrote:

> Stephen Kingham wrote:
> > Yes it is great that SIP is being used, it will help get advanced user to 
> > user communications to the masses.
> >
> > But I think there is something wrong with closed networks, ones that 
> > effectively locking users into a closed group where their communication 
> > with others is controlled/stopped by someone else.

In this case, you can have closed group access for free (free, sip-sip 
calls) and you can pay to access locked groups (fee-based, sip-pstn calls).


> > More and more I see the similarities between SIP and EMAIL.  Would the 
> > world have tolerated email being introduced as closed networks where you 
> > have to use physical post to get from say Yahoo to
>
> Yes but the Internet culture was different when email was being 
> introduced. We look book now
> and wonder how we lived without email but I would have hated cleaning out 
> my spam folder at
> 300 or 1200 baud ;-)

Ideas for dealing with SPIT/SPIM already starting, thank goodness.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-spam-00.txt


> > hotmail?  I think not .... although the mischievous side of me wonders if 
> > that would slow down all this email, and on the other hand I would loose 
> > contact with a lot of friends.  And on the other hand EMail did start off 
> > as closed networks, then eventually the pressure to communication and the 
> > interconnect between Organisational Networks and the open Internet one.
> > I just hope and trust the same will happen with SIP - that they will all 
> > eventually interconnect and be open so that everyone can communicate with 
> > everyone else.

I'm not so trusting in this case.  Of course we support sip.edu in the hope 
that it will encourage dialogue, pardon the pun, but it's too easy to 
automate rogue behavior.

Candace