Presence and IntComm WG

[Steve Blair <>]

Stephen Kingham wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Candace Holman wrote:
>
> > It's great that Yahoo will be using the eyeBeam SDK.  Nice choice!
> >
> > By closed - I assume you mean peer-to-peer SIP calling , without PSTN 
> > gateways?  There's nothing wrong with that, especially if it's free.
>
>
>
> Yes it is great that SIP is being used, it will help get advanced user 
> to user communications to the masses.
>
> But I think there is something wrong with closed networks, ones that 
> effectively locking users into a closed group where their 
> communication with others is controlled/stopped by someone else.
>
> More and more I see the similarities between SIP and EMAIL.  Would the 
> world have tolerated email being introduced as closed networks where 
> you have to use physical post to get from say Yahoo to

Yes but the Internet culture was different when email was being 
introduced. We look book now
and wonder how we lived without email but I would have hated cleaning 
out my spam folder at
300 or 1200 baud ;-)

> hotmail?  I think not .... although the mischievous side of me wonders 
> if that would slow down all this email, and on the other hand I would 
> loose contact with a lot of friends.  And on the other hand EMail did 
> start off as closed networks, then eventually the pressure to 
> communication and the interconnect between Organisational Networks and 
> the open Internet one.
> I just hope and trust the same will happen with SIP - that they will 
> all eventually interconnect and be open so that everyone can 
> communicate with everyone else.
>
> In hope!
>
> Stephen Kingham
>
> PS As usually I was very pleased I got your email Candice, and that 
> you were not like thous poor Yahoo SIP users doomed to the limitations 
> of a Yahoo created world ;-) (humor).
>
> > Candace
> >
> > At 09:17 AM 6/17/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > > Another "closed" SIP ecosystem.
> > >
> > > _http://sipthat.com/archives/000306.html_
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > *Rodger M. Will*
> > > Ford Motor Company
> > > Next Generation Collaborative Computing, SIE/ITI
> > > Tel: 313-323-2636
> > >