Presence and IntComm WG

[Steve Blair <>]

Deke Kassabian wrote:

> --On Thursday, June 9, 2005 6:53 PM -0400 Steve Blair 
> <> wrote:
>
> > Hello:
> >
> >  I thought I'd take a minute to summarize what I was describing on
> > today's call in case other attendees had trouble hearing me. Please
> > add any comments, suggestions or corrections.
> >
> >  I believe we are a point where we need to show support for
> > the PIC-SER deployments while also letting Campus Trial participants
> > and I2 meeting attendees know that we have a plan for where the
> > PIC work is heading.
>
>
> We have a plan? :)
>
> >  I like the idea of a demo deployed in a demo room as one way to
> > achieve this goal.
>
>
> Sounds good.  Do we know if the demo room is large enough to make
> this sort of thing practical, and if our intended use could avoid
> being very disruptive for other demos?

I do not know. The site visit was postponed until July 1st and may be 
changed
again before that date. What information should I collect when we visit the
hotel to help make this decision?

> >  The demo I envision would show a multi-site deployment of PIC-SER,
> > at most three servers, where each server would host a single SIP
> > domain. Probably soft clients, but not necessarily only soft clients,
> > would register to one server /domain.
> >
> >  Clients would be able to call each other with something like the
> > previously
> > demo'd weather report showing the likelihood the call would succeed.
> > The weather report would have to be updated regularly to be useful.
>
>
> This does sound good.  What are you imagining for the weather report?
> Try this on for size:  A network management system provides utilization
> data.  An app on the laptop asks the net mgmt system for that data and
> also measures wireless signal strength and uses the two to make a coarse
> guess at the chances for success.  That the kind of thing you are 
> thinking
> of?  Little sun and cloud icons in a small browser window? :)
Nice idea. I was thinking of the weather report as used in past demos simply
because it is (or was) integrated with the proxy already. Jamie do you have
any thoughts  on this item?

> >   Clients would also be able to place off-net calls to at least the
> > local calling areas. Perhaps to locations in North  America. For 
>
> this we
>
> > would need PSTN connectivity and most likely session timers to 
>
> timeout
>
> > calls so the call doesn't end up costing too much.
> >
> >    For PSTN access I'm thinking PAETEC might offer some level of
> > connectivity as an I2 corporate member and all around interested
> > party.
> > Perhaps Cisco can pony up a small gateway like a 26x0 series box.
> > Anyone lurking who might offer resources :-)
>
>
> We can ask about these things.  We'd want to start asking as soon as
> possible!

Does the group think there is value in dialout to the PSTN?

> >    I think I'd like to see the previously demo'd manual location
> > service as well as the automatic location service deploy to show the
> > location of clients.  The manual service could be available at a 
>
> workstation
>
> > for people to change a clients location and see the change on a 
>
> display.
>
> >     The location would be displayed on one or two large plasma
> > displays (Deke can we use our displays??)
>
>
> Depends on if they are otherwise spoken for during this time, and
> if we think they can be transported safely to and fro.
I think I can fit them in my office until the meeting. Does that answer the
availability question ;-). No really I'll ask the Video Group about the
availability and transportation. The displays in question are 42 inch
Hitachi displays on rolling stands. Does this type of output device add
any value ?

> > and change in realtime with different
> > quadrants of the demo hall (and perhaps just outside the hall) being
> > served by skiffs.
>
>
> Back to my earlier question...  If the demo room isn't sufficiently
> large, and/or the signal strength data at the skiff is not sufficiently
> fine-grained, we may have trouble fixing the location of the user. Right?
Yes. We could end up with less precise position information. I imagine
we would deploy only enough skiffs to provide location feedback for that
portion of the demo room we care about. If we have three domains
we might only care about defining three areas within the demo room.



> >    Now here's the kind of silly part.
> >
> >    What if each quadrant represents either our Moon or one of the
> > moons around Jupiter. The display would have a background image of
> > our Solar System with "dots" representing clients superimposed on the
> > image of the moon where they currently reside.
> >
> >    These could change as location changed. Perhaps we can get really
> > weird and offer presence states such as "in crater", "low on oxygen",
> > "heading to Jupiter", etc.
> >
> >    Ok so this is a little corny but you get the idea.
>
>
> Cute and corny.  But if the domains we use were to represent, say, a
> west coast university, an east coast, and a texas university, we could
> superimpose location on a map of the US and make it sorta real for
> the people there.  Any value in that?
I think so. I like the idea of giving people something to think about 
deploying.
If a map of the U.S. makes the visual affect real that is great.

> Thanks for writing this up, Steve.  I think the idea holds some real
> promise.
OK. Will you let go of my arm now :-)  Ha Ha Ha just kidding. A little
local humor everyone.

> Others?
>
> ^Deke
>
> -------
> Deke Kassabian,  Senior Technology Director
> Information Systems and Computing, University of Pennsylvania


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