Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of March 16*

(new)
[ACTION] Bruce will talk to Jamey about doing presence via XCAP.
[ACTION] Bruce and Candace will dig deeper into PIC's eyeBeam testing results.
[ACTION] Jeremy will try to get some people from JISC to join the March 17 
call.
[ACTION] All will review Candace's Feb. 25 note to the list, subject "Presence
Package Requirements Update 022505 (2)", in preparation for further discussion
of the package, its cookbook, and associated services on the March 17 call.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a script for the Member Meeting demo, recruiting
others to help as necessary.

(from previous calls)
[ACTION] For the Spring MM demo, Rodger will look into a) eyeBeam for the Mac
and b) Session.
[ACTION] Candace will try to get a version of Pulver Communicator that 
registers
properly with PALS.
[ACTION] Jamey will look into ways of addressing Dennis's concerns about solo
testing on the PALS server.
[ACTION] Jamey will test eyeBeam against the 090 prerelease version of SER,
which is what PALS is running now.
[ACTION] Candace will write a description of a simple way to append PUBLISH
messages from the client to the servers, in order to provide a basic way to
do location and presence tracking.
[ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Steve - Airwave
- Candace - Airespace (being bought by Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnusson)
[ACTION] Jeremy will outline a high-level paper on the PIC WG's experiences 
and
lessons learned.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for the
paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.
[ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] Jamey will continue working on the future of the skiffs, and solicit
opinions from PIC members as needed.

*Attendees*

Jeremy George (chair) - Yale
Dennis Baron - MIT
Candace Holman - Harvard
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Elliot Peele - NC State
Rodger Wills - Ford
Joe Rork - Ford
Bruce Gray - Xten
Ed Guy - Pulver
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Elliot Peele gave a short introduction to a semester-long project he's working
on at NC State, to implement SIMPLE on PhoneGaim (www.phonegaim.com) and make
it portable among different SIP proxies. They plan to test against SER among
others.

Bruce Gray noted that Xten is finding the PIC WG's feedback useful, and asked
how eyeBeam fits into the group's plans. Ben T. mentioned several possible 
areas
of work:
- adding media types of particular use in the R&E environment -- 
e.g. high-quality video -- or IPv6.
- exposing automated presence information from PALS via eyeBeam.
- adding eyeBeam to the Internet2 Commons SIP service
(http://commons.internet2.edu/pilot.html).
Bruce noted that Xten has created its own XCAP server, called LiveEye, that 
does
presence via updates to XCAP documents. [ACTION] Bruce will talk to Jamey 
about
doing presence via XCAP. [ACTION] Bruce and Candace will dig deeper into PIC's
eyeBeam testing results. Bruce also noted that there's a lot of buzz lately
around presence in the enterprise. A Linux version of eyeBeam is now in beta;
contact Bruce 
()
 for more information.

[ACTION] Jeremy will try to get some people from JISC to join the March 17 
call.

The group agreed to defer discussion of demo packaging to the March 17 call.
[ACTION] All will review Candace's Feb. 25 note to the list, subject "Presence
Package Requirements Update 022505 (2)", in preparation for further discussion
of the package, its cookbook, and associated services on the March 17 call.

All speakers for the Member Meeting session have been confirmed:
- David Lassner - overview
- Ben Teitelbaum - demo
- Henning Schulzrinne - elaboration on demo
- Candace Holman - PALS software distribution
We still need an MC. See
http://events.internet2.edu/2005/spring-mm/sessionDetails.cfm?session=1933&event=229
for the abstract and schedule info. Candace noted that she has a sizable
collection of use cases that could be discussed in the session. [ACTION] Ben 
T.
will write a script for the Member Meeting demo, recruiting others to help as
necessary.