Presence and IntComm WG

[Stephen Kingham <>]

Hi

I am mindful that I do not want to turn this into just a telephone 
service, so please view these comments accordingly.

Perhaps it would not be hard to find a sponsor, at the Australian 
equivalent to the Members Meeting we provide free phone calls from IP 
Telephones.

Also we would offer free IP Telephone calls into most of Australia if 
they came from Internet2's SIP Proxy Server as part of a test/trial, and 
we would also do the SMS gateway for calls into Australia as part of the 
test/trial for free as well. 

Stephen

Candace Holman wrote:

> It sounds lovely, but it would be a good idea to find a sponsor ($ and 
> technical setup and monitoring) for the PSTN gateway before investing 
> any time in the development and planning.
>
> Candace
>
> At 05:39 PM 6/21/2004, you wrote:
>
> > This idea does help make the IC part of PIC a reality.  And given the
> > way Joe describes it, it also makes nice use of the P in PIC.
> >
> > Personally, I like it.
> >
> > --On Monday, June 21, 2004 5:34 PM -0400 "Rork, Joseph (J.P.)" 
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > > < soapbox>
> > > I am a Vonage user.  One of the things that I think is cool is the
> > > click-to-call feature.  I just highlight a bit of numeric text on my
> > > computer, push F6, and my analog desk phone rings, connecting me to
> > > the phone number that I highlighted.  Simple, stupid, cool.  Easier
> > > to use then Skype.
> > >
> > > Great, what does this have to do with PIC?
> > >
> > > I realize that our group promotes SIP as our protocol of choice, and
> > > that we wish to promote presence and integrated communications using
> > > SIP.  However, I also thing that we can achieve our goal without
> > > demanding that we are SIP end-to-end.  SIP.edu, which actually likes
> > > SIP so much that it has SIP in it's name, isn't always SIP
> > > end-to-end.  But people get the idea.  I use SIP, I contact someone.
> > > I argue that we relax our grip on controlling all aspects of the
> > > RTC, and focus more on the PIC.  All the end user wants to do is
> > > communicate with someone; we want to show them how to use PIC to
> > > communicate with that someone more effectively.
> > >
> > > I propose that we allow the conference attendees to add their
> > > existing cell phones to their profile at the conference, mimicking
> > > what a real world implementation might look like today.  Then, as
> > > part of our integrated communications package, we offer this as a
> > > voice endpoint using the SIP-to-PSTN gateway we plan on providing.
> > > It will allow he end user to make softphone to cell and cell to cell
> > > calls, depending on how we implement it.
> > >
> > > We can take it one step further and allow people to not only
> > > register their cell phone number, but also their SMS contact as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > Scenario 1:  Tarzan wants to call Jane.  Tarzan is using a SIP
> > > softphone on his computer and puts in 
> > > .
> > >   The system
> > > sees that Jane is registered at softphone 
> > >
> > >  and rings
> > > her softphone.  Done already today.
> > >
> > > Scenario 2:  Same as one, but Jane's battery on her laptop died and
> > > she isn't registered at all.  System recognizes this, and redirects
> > > the call to the cell phone that Jane provided in her profile out the
> > > PSTN gateway.  Note Tarzan still doesn't know Jane's cell, just her
> > > unique identifier.
> > >
> > > Scenario 3:  Tarzan still wants to call Jane, but Jane is sitting in
> > > a coconut opening seminar, and doesn't want to be disturbed by phone
> > > calls.  The system recognizes that Jane has set Jane has set her
> > > "DND by voice" flag, and offers Tarzan the option to IM her.  Tarzan
> > > decides no, but instructs the system to have Jane call him when both
> > > of them are not seen as busy by voice.
> > >
> > > Scenario 4:  Tarzan in hurry, doesn't have time to boot up old 386,
> > > runs to kiosk, logs in as Tarzan, tells system to call Jane using
> > > Tarzan's cell phone.  Tarzan's cell phone rings, Jane answers either
> > > cell phone or softphone, depending on which she is using at the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > I know that there are some that are not fans of gateways, but we are
> > > putting in a PSTN gateway because we recognize the need to expand
> > > our calling audience.  It would be beneficial if we use that same
> > > gateway to extend the integrated part of our communications.  I
> > > believe that it would help people 'get' what we are trying to
> > > explain.  And it would also help solve that little nagging voice
> > > problem that we admit to having...
> > >
> > > < /soapbox>
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Joseph Rork
> > > Associate Architect
> > > Next Generation Collaborative Computing, SIE
> > > Ford Motor Company
> > > Phone: 313-594-6672
> > > Email: 
> > >
> > > "There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand
> > > binary, and those who don't."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------
> > Deke Kassabian,  Senior Technology Director
> > Information Systems and Computing, Networking and Telecommunications
> > University of Pennsylvania   <URL:http://www.net.isc.upenn.edu/~deke>

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