wg-multicast - Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s)
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- From: Bob Gerdes <>
- To: Frank Fulchiero <>
- Cc: wg-multicast <>
- Subject: Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s)
- Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:46:10 -0500 (EST)
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Frank Fulchiero wrote:
A little OT, but I see that the Inauguration may also be available on Ustream and the iPhone/iPod Touch
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2804
It makes me wonder why the commercial services and commodity network providers have not started using multicast more in high demand areas of video delivery.
Does it not make sense that it is a heck of a lot more efficient to stream one stream, than thousands or millions?
Is multicast becoming more popular on sections of the public internet?
If not, why not? What is holding it back?
Just wondering.
Based on one test, a local group had regularly been using an off campus streaming service when we convinced them to try a multicast service for a major event. While evaluating how the off campus service worked, it turned out that they worked with Akamai for web caching. As we have Akamai caches on campus, this helped to get past our handoff (1 copy to cache) and put the load of distribution on our local network. We calculated that it was possible to cause problems, but the total number of viewers to various campuses never reached that level. This works for any ISPs that have Akamai.
At a local conference, there was a presentation that discussed a local research project (coblitz - content delivery infrastructure) that was developed to disseminate the University Channel. It appears that this will be part of the GENI testing.
Both of these are reasonable alternatives to multicast for many clusters of small numbers. Actually they reach off campus folks. Both models are functioning and alleviate network bandwidth concerns (especially at handoffs) based on current level of demand.
March Madness (and local sporting events) really tests the limits of these approaches. Given that a large portion of the attention for this is on campus, it would be interesting if somehow Internet2 and the likely schools could convince the streaming service to offer up a multicast to Internet2 schools. Certainly, whatever the numbers have been, multicast thru Internet2 could easily help them reach double or triple the numbers without similar infrastructure upgrades. It should be in their interests to double the number of eyes watching the game and it certainly would be in ours.
Frank Fulchiero
Digital Media Specialist
Connecticut College
- Inauguration Day Stream(s), Lonnie Leger, 01/15/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Alan Crosswell, 01/15/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/15/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Frank Fulchiero, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Julian Y. Koh, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), David Mitchell, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), David Farmer, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), David Mitchell, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Julian Y. Koh, 01/23/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bill Owens, 01/23/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Alan Crosswell, 01/23/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Ryan Harden, 01/23/2009
- RE: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Mike Carey, 01/26/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), David Mitchell, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), David Farmer, 01/20/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Frank Fulchiero, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/17/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Bob Gerdes, 01/15/2009
- Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s), Alan Crosswell, 01/15/2009
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