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  • From: Marshall Eubanks <>
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  • Subject: Fwd: miniSAP
  • Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:16:24 -0400

OK, can we find out

- what version people were using
- at least one repeatable case that causes trouble ?

Regards
Marshall

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From: Rémi Denis-Courmont
<>
Date: June 29, 2008 5:02:10 AM EDT
To: Marshall Eubanks
<>
Cc:

Subject: Re: miniSAP

Le samedi 28 juin 2008 20:34:33 Marshall Eubanks, vous avez écrit :
We have been having a lot of problems recently with this program
blasting out SAP messages (up to 300 Mbps !), which cause multicast
problems.

Yeah, so basically... minisap does not implement any bandiwdth measurement at
the moment. Congestion control is as brain-dead as sending a packet every
total delay divided by total number of _local_ announces.

Is there any possibility that this program could be changed to rate
limit it to < 1 Mbps or some other reasonable level ?

minisap should measure the incoming SAP traffic, much like the VLC built-in
SAP sender does. However the official SAP RFC limit (4kbps) sounds very low.

That being noted, the default delay is 5 seconds, so that users wait no more
than 5 seconds to get the full channels lists. If there are so many announces
that you currently receive 300 Mbps of them on a single multicast group, it
would mean there are the order of a million different announces. This seems
unlikely high. I would suppose there is some buggy sender somewhere that
sends way too fast, such as an out-of-date version (< 0.3.4) of miniSAP.

--
Rémi Denis-Courmont
http://www.remlab.net/




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