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Re: SAP storm from 145.19.1.183


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  • From: Frank Fulchiero <>
  • To: Zenon Mousmoulas <>
  • Cc: Niels den Otter <>, wg-multicast <>
  • Subject: Re: SAP storm from 145.19.1.183
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:09:55 -0400


On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Zenon Mousmoulas wrote:

OK so let me see if I understand correctly:

The cause of the problem was not that a video stream (corresponding to the SAP announcement) was somehow "relayed" to the SAP group itself, as we first thought (at least I did). On the contrary, the problem was caused by miniSAPserver sending otherwise "normal" SAP announcements at the amazing frequency of 33KHz, instead of the intended 0.03 Hz. Right?

If that is so, and that is what happened in each and every recent case of a "SAP storm", then how do we explain the different bit/ packet rate, assuming everyone tried to set the suggested sap_delay=30?

However Frank also notes this behavior was not consistent. So, do you have any ideas what else could have triggered it, apart from this setting? A specific video stream type perhaps?


What might have triggered it for us is when we tried to send a SAP for an MPEG4 h.264 RTSP stream, and changed cfg to

[global]
sap_delay=30
interface=en0

[program]
name=Connecticut College Ch3
user=Connecticut College
machine=136.244.96.104
site=http://www.conncoll.edu
address=233.88.214.139
port=5432
address=233.88.214.139
port=5434
playlist_group=ConnColl miniSAPserver

This seemed to create the following stream in the SAP server, viewed in terminal

v=0
o=Connecticut College 16916 1 IN IP4 136.244.96.104
s=Connecticut College Ch3
u=http://www.conncoll.edu
c=IN IP4 233.88.214.139/255
t=0 0
a=tool:miniSAPserver 0.3.4
a=x-plgroup:ConnColl miniSAPserver
a=type:broadcast
a=charset:UTF-8
m=video 54325434 udp 33

I documented this to the list at the time, but there seemed to be less interest in SAPS then.

Frank






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