wg-multicast - Re: UCTV International
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- From: Dan Oachs <>
- To: Frank Fulchiero <>
- Cc: George Bray <>, ,
- Subject: Re: UCTV International
- Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:45:02 -0500
I would be curious to know how others would answer the questions Frank mentioned. I will try to add my thoughts as well. You can get an idea of what we are doing here: https://gustv.gac.edu/about.php
Frank Fulchiero wrote:
1. Are any institutions streaming similar channels, either internally in their own intranet, or externally on multicast so others can view them?We are not yet streaming any free to air television.
2. Are there any future plans to do so?We do have an unused dish and are considering using it to grab what we can and then multicast it to our network and possibly I2.
I am not sure exactly how they would use it, but the faculty here that have seen the UCTV channels are very excited about them. We also get some international programming from a Dish Network receiver which is used quite a bit by our language faculty.
3. Do any educators feel this is a unique asset that has the potential to benefit:
a) Teaching and Learning
b) Research
c) Cross-cultural understanding and appreciation
I think with more exposure, students and faculty will get very excited and ask for more. So, letting everyone know that it can be done and providing an easy way to access them would probably help.
4. If an institution is streaming these internally, what would it take to enable sharing the channels to a larger educational group? What obstacles need to be overcome?
5. Can anything be done to assist in seeing these types of services grow?
It think it would be great if each institution that has a spare dish and some extra bandwidth could start streaming a channel or two.
6. Is there any room for collaboration? For example, having different institutions stream a different channel or group, to eliminate duplication of efforts.
What kind of letter would have the most impact? Email, postal, blog, flattering website, all of the above? I would be happy to do them all.
7. More specifically, George Bray, who heads UCTV, could use some assistance in continuing this service, in the form of:
a) Letters from any participants that what UCTV is doing is worthwhile in the educational context.
Gustavus is using multicast IPTV in a pilot project to provide 8 local TV stations, I2 streams, and live events to the students and faculty on our campus.
b) Feedback on how many other institutions are using multicast TV to reach the campus student network, or are planning this in the future. UCTV would like to continue this.
We gave a short presentation about what we have done earlier this year. You can view the slides from that presentation here: http://www.csbsju.edu/itservices/gusday/IPTV.pdf Hopefully that will be useful to others.
c) Assistance in procuring new equipment, and development funds that would result in benefit to other institutions.. The outcome would be hardware and software specs for a Mac-Mini based DVB-S or DVB-T receiver for three satellite USB boxes that others could use.
If we could draw some more developer attention to the VLC application and the browser plugin, that would be great. We are using the plugin extensively on our IPTV website. I have had great luck with the PPC Mac OS X version of the plugin. Rarely ever seems to crash. However the Windows plugin seems a bit more buggy. Would be great if we could assist in fixing those problems.
d) Clarification of the position of I2 and institutional management on the legal aspects of relaying channels from one global jurisdiction to another. And the legal aspects of receiving them.
e) George also mentions development on VLC, specifically to quote him:
“The other area where I think a little developer funding would go a long way is putting some effort into refinement of the VLC browser plugin. This open-source plugin allows web site developers to easily include broadcast TV services in their web applications. This software opens up enormous opportunities for global communities to be formed around broadcast media, by combining the live (or recorded) TV and all the "Web 2.0" aspects of web-based group communication. Currently, the software is buggy and not very reliable. What's required here is some technical talent to get inside how the plugin works, and how it ties into VLC on the host platforms, and to work with the VLC developers on making it reliable and extending the functionality.”
Frank, looks like you have a very informative website there. I would be interested in seeing what you have for "a better system to display the schedules".
I think it boils down to the fact that some type of cooperative/collaborative effort will be needed to ensure the survival and growth of this beyond the "Pilot" stage. It's too much to expect one person at one institution to do this for free year after year, ideally there should be some type of distributed responsibility. In the meantime, folks can contact George regarding any assistance they can provide. It's natural that some institutions and individuals will be in a position to assist more than others.
We are a small institution, but at our end, I have tried to make the UCTV channels more useful by starting to put information and a schedule for them on-line
http://nutmeg.conncoll.edu/wiki/index.php/UCTV_Channels
And if George can still benefit from a Mac Mini for development this summer, will try to get him one.
I also may have $600 or so in wages available for "summer of code" student programming to improve the functionality of VLC for these purposes. I know it's not a lot, but if we all chip in somehow, maybe we can keep this going.
If anyone has feedback on any of the above, I'd love to hear it. And George, if I've got anything wrong, please correct me.
Thanks,
Frank Fulchiero
Digital Media Specialist
Connecticut College
Now I would like to share a bit more details about what we have at Gustavus. We put together a website we call GusTV ( https://gustv.gac.edu/ ) where we are attempting to aggregate all of the known I2 video streams as well as our own local TV channels. ( Local channels are not listed for any computer off our campus subnet. ) For some of the UCTV channels we are displaying guide information. Feel free to give it a try. If you can get I2 multicast streams, the website should work for you as well. You can either open the streams in the VLC plugin or in VLC independently depending on where you click.
We also have a perl script that we wrote which listens for SAP announcements and sticks much of that information into a database. From there we then generate another part of the GusTV website where anyone can go and try to tune into these streams.
For the streams we have found that don't have SAP announcements, we have manually inserted them on some of our pages as well.
If anyone finds this website useful, I would like to know. Please send any comments, suggestions, etc. to . And if you know of any video feeds not listed on our site, we would like to know. We have a bunch of ideas for improving what we have and I am trying to add what I can when I have time.
Thanks,
Dan Oachs
Gustavus Adolphus College
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