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  • From: William Caban <>
  • To: William Caban <>
  • Cc: wg-multicast <>
  • Subject: Re: need help debuging multicast
  • Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:30:01 -0400

Well, here it is.

UPR: University of Puerto Rico

Setup Scenario
===========

We have a Cisco GSR serving all our campuses and this is the one that is doing the peering with Ampath for I2 services. On unicast we only advertise /24s of those campuses that are part of the University and not the /16 of our main class (136.145/16) since we have (for historic reasons) private entities being which Internet services are serve by this class (we are working on fixing that). On multicast we just advertise the whole /16 since these external private entities are not multicast enable anyway.

(AMPATH/I2)-----[GSR at UPR]----(UPR I2 institution)
\-----[7600 a] -------- (other smaller UPR institutions)
\-------------[7600 b] ---- (Internet - Local Carrier)
\----- (private entities)


So here I'll be referring to the GSR, UPR I2 institutions and the "7600 a".


Actual information
=============

From the GSR I have an MBGP peering with AMPATH in which I advertise the 136.145/16 plus the Arecibo's Observatory Networks, the output for this part:

GSR12406#sh ip mbgp neighbors 198.32.252.209 advertised-routes
BGP table version is 988206, local router ID is 136.145.215.50
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
r RIB-failure, S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 136.145.0.0 0.0.0.0 32768 i
*> 192.65.176.0 136.145.215.18 0 32768 ?
*> 192.231.93.0 136.145.215.18 0 32768 ?
*> 192.231.95.0 136.145.215.18 0 32768 ?

From the GSR I also have an msdp peering with AMPATH, the UPR I2 campuses that want Multicast and to the 7600:

GSR12406#sh ip msdp summary
MSDP Peer Status Summary
Peer Address AS State Uptime/ Reset SA Peer Name
Downtime Count Count
198.32.252.33 20080 Up 3w0d 2 2724 gsr.ampath.net
136.145.215.14 65003 Down 00:00:05 0 0 rrp2hpcf.hpcf.upr.edu !They were down on this snapshot
136.145.215.6 65002 Up 6d00h 1 0 rcm2hpcf.hpcf.upr.edu
136.145.215.49 5786 Up 4d22h 0 0 gw7600.hpcf.upr.edu

Now, I seen on the beacon (http://beacon2.ncsa.uiuc.edu/) that the two beacons, on two different campuses are behaving quite different:

ciar-mcast.rcm.*upr*.*edu (*136.145.128.147) >> connected on a campus, mostly have multicast connectivity
wisepiont.hpcf.upr.edu (136.145.54.40) >> connected to the 7600, have no multicast connectivity

The IGMP on the 7600 look like this:

7609#sh ip igmp groups 233.4.200.18
IGMP Connected Group Membership
Group Address Interface Uptime Expires Last Reporter
233.4.200.18 Vlan2 4d19h 00:02:01 136.145.54.40
7609#

7609#sh ip mroute 233.4.200.18 136.145.54.40 count
IP Multicast Statistics
12 routes using 8100 bytes of memory
8 groups, 0.50 average sources per group
Forwarding Counts: Pkt Count/Pkts per second/Avg Pkt Size/Kilobits per second
Other counts: Total/RPF failed/Other drops(OIF-null, rate-limit etc)

Group: 233.4.200.18, Source count: 2, Packets forwarded: 5158036, Packets received: 5158036
Source: 136.145.54.40/32, Forwarding: 5158036/13/55/6, Other: 5158036/0/0
7609#


Now on the GSR I get this:

GSR12406#sh ip mroute 233.4.200.18 136.145.54.40 count
IP Multicast Statistics
161 routes using 77456 bytes of memory
9 groups, 16.88 average sources per group
Forwarding Counts: Pkt Count/Pkts per second/Avg Pkt Size/Kilobits per second
Other counts: Total/RPF failed/Other drops(OIF-null, rate-limit etc)

Group: 233.4.200.18, Source count: 51, Group pkt count: 9603068
Source: 136.145.54.40/32, Forwarding: 0/-12/0/0, Other: 5158454/0/5158454


What does "-12" means!? How can I forward packets in neg? The RPF for this network on these routes look like this:

GSR12406#sh ip rpf 136.145.54.40
RPF information for wisepoint.hpcf.upr.edu (136.145.54.40)
RPF interface: GigabitEthernet1/2
RPF neighbor: ? (136.145.215.54)
RPF route/mask: 136.145.54.0/24
RPF type: unicast (ospf 5786)
RPF recursion count: 0
Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
GSR12406#

RPF information for wisepoint.hpcf.upr.edu (136.145.54.40)
RPF interface: Vlan2
RPF neighbor: ? (136.145.54.40) - directly connected
RPF route/mask: 136.145.54.0/24
RPF type: unicast (connected)
RPF recursion count: 0
Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
7609#

At the beacon page wisepoint.hpcf.upr.edu (136.145.54.40) is clasified as a Blind Beacon. The other machine, ciar-mcast.rcm.*upr*.*edu* (136.145.128.147) from time to time disappear from beacons like *.indiana.edu.

Where in the configuration do I start looking for possible explanations?


Thanks in advance,

--William Caban

William Caban wrote:

I need help debugging our multicast (University of Puerto Rico). I remember I did the multicast configuration back in 2002 and basically haven't touch it since then. Lately we have been having various strange behavior where in a short period of time (an hour) people see us from some places and then it stops. I've try my best and I think it should be working (but clearly is not). Will this be a forum for this type of questions to post more detailed information? or, can anyone point me to the right forum?


Thanks in advance,

William Caban





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