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Re: [Mtp] the more things change, the more they stay the same


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  • From: Joel Jaeggli <>
  • To: Lorenzo Vicisano <>
  • Cc: David Meyer <>, <>, <>, <>, <>
  • Subject: Re: [Mtp] the more things change, the more they stay the same
  • Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:52:24 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Lorenzo Vicisano wrote:
>
> because you, the host, would have to have routing information to find
> out who the 1st hop towards the source is...

Do situations exist where a host that isn't running an igp or egp has
multiple first hop routers available on the interface that it's default
route is pointing out (excluding the special case of hsrp)?

> you would also have to
> take part to the PIM routing protocol to find out who's responsible to
> forward in your lan for that source.

yes

> Lorenzo
>
> >
> > > Lorenzo
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, David Meyer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess the more things change, the more they stay the
> > > > > same.
> > > > >
> > > > > So another thing occurred to me while reading the
> > > > > Multicast Last-Mile Solutions drafts on Greg's site: Why
> > > > > are we defining yet another ad-hoc signaling protocol
> > > > > (that is one way to looks at these proposals)? The IETF
> > > > > literature is littered with signaling proposals, some
> > > > > host-based, some router-based, at varying degrees of
> > > > > generality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Straw person: why not have the host send a PATH message
> > > > > towards the source (since it knows the source) and have
> > > > > the first multicast capable router in the path send back
> > > > > the its tunnel endpoint, have the host set up GRE (or
> > > > > user space encap) to that router and ...
> > > > >
> > > > > What I am suggesting is we really don't have a general
> > > > > purpose host-to-router signaling protocol (well,
> > > > > maybe). So if we pick one of the current drafts (or a
> > > > > hybrid, or even new), will we have to build a new
> > > > > signaling infrastructure for the next feature not
> > > > > supported by the directly connected routers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems like we should be able to answer this question in a
> > > > > more general way than is done in these drafts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Mtp mailing list
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.shepfarm.com/mailman/listinfo/mtp
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > > > Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services
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> > > > In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last
> > > > resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but
> > > > inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
> > > > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's
> > > > Dictionary"
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services
> >
> >
> > -- PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E --
> > In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last
> > resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but
> > inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
> > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
> >
>

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-- PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E --
In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last
resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but
inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"





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