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  • Subject: RE: Shibboleth Beta and WAYF/DS
  • Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:14:53 -0400

The wording of my question regarding the EntityID for the WAYF was certainly
horrific. I was referring to a comment I noticed in the shibboleth2.xml
configuration file. Clearly I misinterpreted the comment:

<!-- An example using an old-style WAYF, which means Shib 1 only unless an
entityID is provided. -->

I interpreted that to mean the old-style WAYF could support Shib 2 if an
entityID was provided, but I had no idea how to do that.


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From: Scott Cantor
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Sent: Fri 10/5/2007 8:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Shibboleth Beta and WAYF/DS



> Has anyone been testing the Shibboleth Beta with any WAYF/DS
> applications? I am curious if there is a good starting point on using
> them and properly configuring the SP (and presumably the WAYF/DS) for
> pure SAML2 based transactions. I am most familiar with the Switch WAYF,
> but I am open to other options if it is not SAML2 viable.

No WAYF I know of would handle SAML 2, it will just dead end you. The DS in
subversion should be usable, AFAIK, and is protocol-independent.

> I read through the Shibboleth SP, and I was not entirely sure what was
> meant by creating an EntityID for the WAYF, are there examples of SAML2
> Metadata for a WAYF?

Don't know what you mean exactly. There's no metadata like that. There's
some metadata for the SP involved in authorizing a DS to return the IdP name
to it, but it's not metadata about the DS.

> Additionally, would a WAYF configured like that be
> compatible with non-Shibboleth IDPs (or SPs)?

A WAYF is a Shibboleth protocol proxy. A DS is not but has no support from
any other products that I know of. All SAML products treat discovery as out
of scope and typically assume a small set of IdPs and/or use the common
domain cookie

Using them with the SP is straightforward, they simply run as "catch-all"
SessionInitiators that trap session requests that don't contain an entityID
to tell it what IdP to use. By definition, you'd generally just configure
either a WAYF or a DS, the latter if you expect SAML 2 support, the former
for legacy compatibility.

-- Scott




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