Shibboleth Developers

["Scott Cantor" <>]

> I have been told by colleagues in the schools sector that some
> categories of user, such as young children, simply aren't capable of
> selecting 'their' IdP. Whether the selection UI is located at the SP or
> some other WAYF (or indeed as a piece of browser chrome) is moot.

This is an example of what bothers me....is the message there "forget it"?
Because I don't see how to turn that feedback into a proposal.

> Even for adult users, the answer to the question "which IdP are you
> affiliated with" is not always obvious; for example, there are cases
> concerning multiple affiliations and the correct answer depends on the
> user knowing which IdP has the relevant relationship with the SP for the
> resource in question.

True, though I have yet to see that materialize in practice, but this is, I
think, an argument for the process being closer to the SP, not farther away.
 
> It gets worse when we ask the question "which
> federation is your IdP affiliated with" because the user has no concept
> of federation.

And I think most agree that's a dead end.

-- Scott