shibboleth-dev - Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism
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- From: Chad La Joie <>
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- Subject: Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism
- Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:31:11 -0400
- Organization: UIS - Project Sentinel
Tom Scavo wrote:
On 7/5/05, Chad La Joie
<>
wrote:
Each custom extension (or groups of extensions) would create a directory
within the "custom" directory. These extension directories would have
the following directory structure
<extension_directory>
etc/
lib/
src/
test/
build.properties
Do you mean tests/ (plural) for consistency?
Yep, "tests".
The "src" directory would contains your java sources for the extensions.
The "test" directory would contain any unit tests for them. The "etc"
directory would contain any number of directories that would simply be
copied in to the resulting extension jar, you would put any non-source
files that you wanted available on the class path in here (config files,
XML schemas, etc).
Instead of an etc/ directory, wouldn't an include file be more
flexible? Then the paths could be relative or absolute. (Absolute
paths are an important requirement, at least for the extension I have
in mind.)
No, no path is absolute when the stuff is included in the class path. This directory is only for the stuff that will be sucked up in to the jar. It's works the same as the "conf" and "schema" directories in the regular shib source tree. If you want to bundle example config files that sit on the filesystem some where and are read in to your class then you can put it in another directory and include directions on the configuration of installation on where to put the files.
An alternative to that would be to put the config files where the shib config files that go on the filesystem are placed.
The "lib" directory would contain any 3rd party
libraries you need for your stuff. Additional directories can be
included (documentation, config files that go somewhere else, etc) and
they'll just be ignored. The build.properties file would contain a
single property; the name of the resulting jar.
What would be the name of this property and would it be okay to have
other properties in the build.properties file? For example, is it
okay to override idp.deployment.descriptor and/or
sp.deployment.descriptor in the extension build.properties file?
No, the compilation of an extension does not change or overwrite the descriptor file. The property name is extension.name.
When the IdP or SP was built it would compile each extension in turn
In what order? What if one extension depends upon another?
There is no implied order. While I agree that this could be helpful in the future, it's a HUGE pain to do and just not going to happen right now. You have to go outside Ant and use something like IVY or Maven to manage this and we're trying to get the "low hanging fruit" with this.
(ensuring all the Shib and 3rd party extension classes/libs are on the
classpath) and place the resulting extension jar, and all 3rd party jars
(those in extension_directory/lib) into a lib directory in the "custom"
directory. Then, when the WARs were built for the IdP and SP, these jar
would be scooped up and put in the appropriate place. A by product of
this approach is a greatly simplified means of including custom
extension; compiling them in some fashion and just placing the resulting
jar(s) in the custom/lib directory.
What is done with the unit tests in tests/?
I should have been more specific. The unit tests will need to be JUnit test cases, and they will be run after compile just like the IdP does during it's build process. The build isn't going to try anything other than to run the test, if it fails the module fails to build.
Two issues with this approach. First, if different extensions use
different versions of the same 3rd party jar you'll get class conflicts.
This would be true whether the Shib build did any of this special stuff
or not. Second, extension authors are locked in to this source-tree
structure. For most extensions this is probably just fine, for more
complicated extensions this may not be good. I had discussed with a
couple people some idea for making this more flexible but ultimately we
decided that the additional complexity for everything BUT the extension
(and probably even for the extension) just wasn't worth it. So, for
these special extensions, they can create their own build process and
just place their jar(s) in the custom/lib directory.
Don't know if I'm in the latter category, but two things come to mind:
1) What if the extension wanted to supply a custom user ARP?
Extensions don't supply this stuff. This is something people do when they configure a shibboleth instance which occurs after the build. If your extension provides some special ARP functionality than people need to be aware of this when they install your extension.
2) How will the extension pre-process configuration files? For
example, what if the extension needed to do a custom variable
substitution (similar to $SHIB_HOME$)?
Currently I don't have support for attribute expansion. We may choose to expand a specific attribute, like SHIB_HOME, but there is no way we're going to be able to create a mechanism that would allow people to expand an arbitrary attribute to an arbitrary value inside any given extension.
(By the way, $SHIB_HOME$ needs
to be changed to $IDP_HOME$ or $SP_HOME$ so that it agrees with the
new property names in build.properties.)
Yeah, this is probably true. I'd log this one as a separate bug.
--
Chad La Joie 315Q St. Mary's Hall
Project Sentinel 202.687.0124
- More defined custom extensions mechanism, Chad La Joie, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Chad La Joie, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Walter Hoehn, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- RE: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Scott Cantor, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- RE: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Scott Cantor, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- RE: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Scott Cantor, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- RE: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Scott Cantor, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Walter Hoehn, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Chad La Joie, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/06/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Chad La Joie, 07/05/2005
- Re: More defined custom extensions mechanism, Tom Scavo, 07/05/2005
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