perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

[Hervey Allen <>]

Well put Casey :-)

+1 to your sentiments.

Good luck to the team.

- Hervey

On 15-12-20 12:34, Casey Russell (via perfsonar-user Mailing List) wrote:
> As I started typing, it was to ask "If there's a desire to provide
> something RH centric, have you guys had any time to look at the new
> Rocky Linux fork?".  Then I realized that question could be rephrased as
> "have you considered some (as of yet) vaporware announced by some
> admittedly talented people in response to the CentOS news, that doesn't
> have a userbase, and no current downloadable distro?"...   so...    Let
> me say something entirely different.
> 
> Best of Luck to you guys.  We (at KanREN, not speaking for the whole
> community, but I'd bet it's the broad consensus) have faith you'll find
> your way through.  At KanREN our typical install has been the CentOS
> toolkit ISO on everything, then we add the central management pieces to
> the MA.  
> 
> If that ISO goes Debian (or something else) we'll follow.  Hang in
> there, 2020's almost over.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Casey Russell
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> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:08 PM Mark Feit <
> <>> wrote:
> 
>     Uhl, George D. (GSFC-423.0)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.]
>     writes:____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     This might be too early to ask but with Centos 8 scheduled to be EOL
>     on Dec. 31, 2021, what are the thoughts/plans for future post-Centos
>     7 perfsonar releases?
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     I have to admit that I’d been secretly hoping nobody would ask about
>     this until after the first of the year.  :-)  We were just as
>     broadsided by this as everyone else and are still trying to digest it.
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     A week ago, the answer would have been that we’re working on CentOS
>     8 support for the next feature release.  The pScheduler port was
>     done in parallel with the migration to Python 3 as a way to get a
>     feel for the difficulty level.  It turned out to be much easier than
>     the transition between 6 and 7.
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Red Hat’s announcement throws a wrench into the works, especially
>     with the abrupt end of support next year.  We’ve started discussing
>     how we’re going to respond to it.  At this point, it’s safe to say
>     that we won’t be pulling the rug out from under perfSONAR on CentOS
>     7 until we have a viable path forward.  A project I talk to on a
>     regular basis reported positive results with Oracle Linux 8 as a
>     substitute for CentOS 8 and has prompted me to work through its
>     quirks and do some test builds, so that’s one option, even if we
>     have to mirror it someplace so all of R&E can reach it.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     My own take on this is that CentOS Stream will probably be usable
>     but I question whether its post-Fedora-but-pre-EL position in the
>     pipeline will make it something people want to put into production. 
>     I think most of us value stability over having our systems turned
>     into a beta test bed for a commercial product.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Being the community-driven project we are, it would be very useful
>     to get early input from perfSONAR-using organizations about where
>     they’re headed.  That will help us make good decisions about what to
>     support and enable us to have something ready when you start to make
>     the transition.  I’ve already heard from one that says they’re going
>     to pull the rip cord and exit anything Red Hat entirely.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Anyway, I know that’s not a lot of answers, but it’s the best we
>     have at the moment.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     --Mark____
> 
>     __ __
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