perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

[Warren Matthews <>]

Hi 

When I say "java" - I don't just mean the java programming language, I
mean the entire java environment, and to me at least that includes
configuring tomcat etc.

I'm not disparaging perfSONAR. I'm keen to use it. However, to me it is
a hurdle I have to climb.

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 13:32 +0200, Szymon Trocha wrote:
> Warren Matthews wrote:
> > Hi All
> > 
> > I hate to whine but Eric and Jeff say I should call it feedback and send 
> > it to the list.
> > 
> > We've had a terrible time with perfSONAR. I want to give up. Actually we 
> > haven't even made it to trying to install perfSONAR. We haven't even got 
> > the prerequisites installed yet.
> > 
> > The real problem is we have no java expertise. I'm trying to get another 
> > student but that'll be at least a few more weeks. The other problem is 
> > we have to run RHEL. It is mandated by our director; Unfortunately our 
> > site license does not include the application server channel, so we 
> > don't get tomcat. Frankly, we're also not really interested in 
> > understanding the packages and being experts on various server software 
> > tools. We're network support staff, we want to measure and trouble-shoot 
> > the network. Trying to get perfSONAR set up has been a real pain.
> > 
> > Perhaps you will say we should wait for better documentation. But we 
> > would like to be an early adopter because we need to offer monitoring 
> > services for our global campus. I would like to use perfSONAR so in 
> > future we can use data from other networks. Furthermore I claim most 
> > network admins are not going to try as hard as we did. If it doesn't 
> > just work they won't use it.
> 
> Hi Warren,
> 
> First of all thank you for your feedback as it is really important to us.
> 
> But I think I didn't understand where the problem was. Weak 
> documentation is one thing. It's clear but we are improving it 
> constantly. You didn't mention specific points you had problem with. Why 
> did you need Java expert for installation? If you don't have Tomcat you 
> don't have one of the perfSONAR installation prerequisites. I wouldn't 
> make it an accusation against perfSONAR.
> 
> So if you could summarize specific points where the improvement is 
> needed we would appreciate it. Now I think it's too much general.
> 
> Best regards