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- From: maxim <>
- To: 'Nicolas Simar' <>
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- Subject: RE: [Fwd: [pS-dev] perfSONAR 3.1 packaging adjustment proposal]
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:20:37 -0500
Hi Nicolas,
I cant say for the rest of ps-ps team but my personal concern is
that it will be hard to come up with universally adopted requirements
for the deployment filesystem pathnames, logging, config, permissions.
Other than that, I will be more than happy to outsource packaging,
especially for exotic linux distributions which I dont have any reason to
support.
For perl packages I would recommend to build perl self-contained executables
with
all shared libs included for specific architectures.
Cheers,
Maxim
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> Hi Maxim,
>
> could you please have a look at this proposal with an
> external point of view and mentioning what you would do for
> perfsonar-ps?
>
> Could you please do so by next Monday, so that Gijs can go
> forward. We would appreicate it very much.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pS-dev] perfSONAR 3.1 packaging adjustment proposal
> Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:03:45 +0200
> From: Gijs Molenaar
> <>
> To:
>
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> <>,
> Loukik
> Kudarimoti
> <>
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>
> Hello,
>
> I was asked to help on the release team for the perfsonar bundle 3.1.
> below are some points written down that I want to do, but
> maybe some of you have some suggestions about a thing or two.
> Nothing in here is definitive yet, this is the first draft of
> the thoughts in my mind about perfSONAR packages.
>
> I want to streamline the package creation of the
> microreleases, and build a package distribution architecture
> based upon repositories. I want to create deb/rpm build
> scripts for every service and put it in the source, so
> packages can be created from source directly with one or 2 commands.
>
> Advantage is:
> - more flexible package creation
> - One time work, if there are no big changes in the micro release no
> adjustments have to be done to the package files
> - package creation time improvement
> - If everything automates well, the whole perfSONAR project can be
> compiled and packaged with one command (but maybe that is to
> ambitious).
>
> These packages will be put in a repository from where they
> can be installed automatically or manually, what the user wants.
>
> I want to create two repositories for RPM and deb based distro's:
> - One for testing. This way testers can install new
> packages with one
> command and give feedback faster.
> - One for every stable release. advantages:
> - now when there is a 3.0 bundle release, there is no
> much space for
> error. With the stable repository small fixes can be
> done after the
> release
> - now there is no mechanism for security updates (not
> that perfSONAR
> worries about that now)
>
> using repositories makes life so much easier. you only need
> to add the repository one time to your apt/yum configuration,
> and installing and updating is very easy.
>
> Ideally we only need to create 1 RPM for all RPM based
> distro's, but this needs to be investigated (for example
> different tomcat versions with different paths are possible).
>
>
> For every service I need:
> - Short name (for file names)
> - Long Name / Short description
> - Long description (package description)
> - A building STABLE branch source with building instructions, I prefer
> maven.
> - Special (build) dependencies (again, I prefer maven)
> - Contact information (for questions and testing)
> - Where everything should be installed, why, and read-write
> permissions
> on file system. default will be _no_ write permissions on
> filesystem.
> - A quick way of testing if the service is working properly
>
>
> I need:
> - SSH/FTP access to a perfSONAR ftp/http server for package
> publication
> - People helping me to test packages
>
>
> My intention is:
> - Investigate popular GNU/Linux distributions:
> - Red Hat Enterprise
> - CentOS
> - Fedora
> - OpenSUSE (?)
> - Ubuntu
> - Debian
> For latest release and latest release - 1. I don't want to
> make this
> list to big, because all distro's have small differences
> which makes
> the packages too complicated. It would be fantastic to support
> FreeBSD, Mac OS X, Solaris, BeOS and UNIX System V, but I
> really think
> we need to minimise the packaging support for now to get this
> streamlined. People can always use the source if they really don't
> want to use a supported distro.
>
> - Design structure to use the tomcat of the distribution
> - For tomcat services create RPM / DEB build files
> architecture all/any, i386 and x86_64?
> - Standardisation of installation of non java package
> - goal is minimal installation effort, so no adjusting LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> or JAVA_HOME
> - Create yum/apt repositories:
> - For every bundle release
> - unstable for package testing
> - Making the tomcat services as secure as possible (tomcat security
> manager)
> - Write basic package build instructions
> - optional: Write basic install instructions
>
>
> So work flow for 3.1 will be:
> - Micro release of service is done (in a branch)
> - I'll create deb/rpm build scripts
> - optional: create security profile for tomcat security manager.
> - I'll build packages for service and do small test
> - Package is uploaded to testing repositories
> - Developers of service will test the package
> - feedback goes back to me
> - New package to testing repositories
> - Cycle repeats until ready
> - If all micro release packages are ready a stable repository
> is created
>
> Work flow of future will be:
> - Micro release of service is done (in a branch)
> - Developer will build package with deb/rpm build scripts, or this can
> be done centrally by releae team.
> - Test the package
> - package is given to release team, checks if everything is okay.
> - package is uploaded to repository
>
>
> Implications for the end users are only positive, they will
> have the option to add a yum/apt repository and install all
> services with simple apt-get/yum commands. Direct
> installation of the packages is also possible (download
> rpm/deb manually).
>
> phew, now I'm going to drink a coffee.
>
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- [Fwd: [pS-dev] perfSONAR 3.1 packaging adjustment proposal], Nicolas Simar, 05/16/2008
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