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- From: Loukik Kudarimoti <>
- To: Joe Metzger <>
- Cc: Fausto Vetter <>, , "" <>, Eric Boyd <>, Szymon Trocha <>, Jose Augusto Suruagy Monteiro <>, Leobino Sampaio <>, Nicolas Simar <>
- Subject: Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:07:56 +0100
Joe, Fausto, all
The current perfSONAR bundle contains the Command Line MP product developed by RNP. So, certainly, it cannot be easily renamed to geant2-perfSONAR-bundle. In fact, Guilherme Fernandes is the developer of the perfSONAR bundle installer.
I thought the perfSONAR bundle is the product tested and recommended by the perfSONAR consortium. As perfSONAR release management, we worked hard to make sure that the perfSONAR bundle works with multiple programming languages and installation methods (ant, perl, etc). Fausto's CACTIperfSONAR belongs to a new breed of products (something that we expected). I was under the impression that Fausto (and other developers) would like to have it included into into the perfSONAR bundle when it was stable enough.
But this doesn't have to be the case. If the current bundle were to become geant2-perfSONAR bundle, then the current release management will probably have to be called as geant2-perfSONAR release management (i.e, internet2 would probably do its own release management and maybe RNP chooses to do the same).
Is this the preference of the steering committee?
Loukik.
Joe Metzger wrote:
Fausto,
We anticipated multiple organizations would put together collections
of measurement tools that all implement the same version of the perfSONAR
protocols and have been tested and packaged together for for various
reasons (to meet project management deadlines, targeted user communities,
etc.)
At the meeting last fall in France, we decided that such collections would
be called perfSONAR bundles. Several of us thought that the bundle name would
include organization that was putting together the package, but that was never
explicitly documented in meeting minutes and it hasn't happen with the
bundles released since that meeting.
Your's is the 3rd bundle to be developed, so logically following the examples
on the download page and what was previously agreed to, it should be called
the "PerfSONAR V3.0 Bundle", and the collection that Internet2 is putting together
real soon now could be the "PerfSONAR V4.0 Bundle".
But I don't think that is a workable plan.
So, what do people think about changing the bundle release section
to something like:
-----------------------------------------------------------
perfSONAR Bundle Releases
* GEANT PerfSONAR Bundle v2.1 NEW! (22 Aug, 2007)
- Current Production Release recommended to European NRENs
* RNP CACTISonar Bundle v0.2 NEW! (22 Aug, 2007)
- Pre-Release Alpha
* GEANT PerfSONAR Bundle v2.0 (25 May, 2007)
* Initial PerfSONAR Release v1.0 (18 July, 2006)
Note: bundles are named according to the group that managed the packaging,
and usually contain contributions from multiple organizations.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Then in the near future Internet2 can add something like the following
without going through this whole discussion again:
* Internet2 perfSONAR-PS bundle v1.0 (?? October, 2007)
What do people think of this idea?
--Joe
On Aug 30, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Fausto Vetter wrote:
Hi Loukik,
Answers follow below:
Quoting Loukik Kudarimoti
<>:
Hi Fausto,
I noticed that on the wiki downloads page, you have added a new section
called perfSONAR suite and added the cacti plug-in stuff there.
I think the right place for it is the Visualization tools section. I
think so because
* we haven't defined what a suite is (the last time it was proposed, we
agreed to use the bundle instead)
I defined as a suite once:
- it implements an MA-RRD
- it is a client to MPs (for while CLMP - extensible for others)
- it enables users to manage their tests among their mps
- it enables users to extend metrics shared
- it enables users to manage data shared using MA-RRD implemented
So, in summary, it is not just a visualization tool. It is more.
plans to future: topology service at least
* why is it called a suite?
I think because it is not just a tool to see metrics that other MA provide, once it manage the data handle by it.
Can you please move it?
do you think I need to move it anyway?
thanks,
Loukik.
--
Fausto Vetter
NPD/UFSC
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- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Jeff W. Boote, 08/30/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Fausto Vetter, 08/30/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Joe Metzger, 08/30/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Fausto Vetter, 08/30/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Jeff W. Boote, 08/30/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Loukik Kudarimoti, 08/31/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Jeff W. Boote, 08/31/2007
- Re: [pS-dev] wiki download page, Joe Metzger, 08/30/2007
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