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Re: Full Tables or Not


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  • From: David Farmer <>
  • To: Michael H Lambert <>
  • Cc: "" <>
  • Subject: Re: Full Tables or Not
  • Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:21:45 -0500
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For the ones I'm personally aware of, the issue is not provider related, they are using providers that will give them a full table if they asked for it.  In the cases I'm aware of it just the campus is using an high-end L2/3 switch or firewall capable of BGP routing, but not with a full global FIB or RIB for that matter, instead of a real router capable of holding 1M+ routes. However, I suppose that the lack of a real router could be compounded by provider issues too in some cases, but that hasn't been the case in the situations I'm aware of. 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Michael H Lambert <> wrote:
A question occurred to me just as we were hanging up on today's WG call.  It's directed at David, but others are more than welcome to chime in.  There are participants who have R&E tables from the regional and just point a default route at a transit provider.  Is it the case that some of these transit providers might be hard pressed, for various reasons, to send full tables to customers even if the customers could handle them?  I could very well see this happening with a mom and pop local cable company.

Michael




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