NTAC Peering Working Group

["Hutchins, Ronald R" <>]

But if we fill our pipes with Amazon and Microsoft transactions that 
could/should
go over the ISP or TR/CPS links we kill our headroom for research traffic 
like the 
LHC... ???

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From: "David Farmer" 
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To: "David Crowe, Jr." 
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Cc: "Chris Robb" 
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 "NTAC" 
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 "NTAC Peering and Routing WG" 
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 "David Farmer" 
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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:18:13 AM
Subject: Re: heads up on Microsoft future peering announcement

While I think better tools to allow more local influence over the 
routing is a good thing and necessary.  However, I also think it is 
critical for the Net+ service providers to be included in the R&E side 
of the network.  There are a number of initiatives to move research to 
into these cloud services.  Research conducted using cloud based 
infrastructure is still research and deserves access to the R&E network 
just as much research conducted using campus or lab based infrastructure.

The researchers want access to the cost efficiencies in computing that 
these monster-scale cloud providers are creating.  If that makes our 
lives more difficult, so what.  If we don't connect the R&E network to 
these monster-scale cloud providers it is possible there will no longer 
be a need for the R&E network in a few years.

Just like the Internet started to escaped the lab 20 years ago, gird 
computing has escaped the lab too, it just taken on a different name 
when it did, cloud computing.

This is NOT about some conspiracy to replacing TR/CPS or pollute the R&E 
network with commodity traffic, it is about making sure research has 
access to the R&E network regardless where in the cloud/Internet it is 
located.  Does this change make our lives a little more difficult, sure 
it does.  But, we have to find a way to evolve the R&E network to meet 
the changing needs of research, otherwise we should give up on the R&E 
network as a concept.

Thanks.

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