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- From: Brad Fleming <>
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- Subject: Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 12:03:53 -0600
I think it might also be important to delineate between DNS recursion and authoritative hosting.
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Brad Fleming
Director for Technology
Kansas Research and Education Network
Brad Fleming
Director for Technology
Kansas Research and Education Network
On Dec 5, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nick Lewis <> wrote:Hi Steve,I agree that Canvas, or the campus LMS, is one of the most critical services, but the impact of an outage on DNS to a campus authentication infrastructure would impact most/all campus services including cloud services. So, maybe that could be the example about why DNS is so critical?Thanks,NickFrom: <> on behalf of Steve Wallace <>
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Date: Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:14 AM
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Subject: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience InitiativeGreetings NTAC & Security-WG,We’ve heard from a number of community members the desire to leverage the Internet2 infrastructure to improve the robustness of DNS. I’d like to suggest that the NTAC and/or Security-WG consider convening motivated stakeholders to advance this idea. As a placeholder, I’ve created a high-level description. The google docs link will allow anyone with the link to comment. I’m happy to carry water, to help organize, coordinate, etc.Grateful for responses to the following:Is this on-target? If not, how should it be changed?How can I2 staff best move this forward?Thanks,SteveDNS Resilience InitiativePurposeThis initiative's goal is to improve the Internet2' community's DNS resiliency.BackgroundDNS is a crucial component of basic Internet connectivity. Due to its distributed nature, when the Internet is fully functioning, DNS service is typically rugged and resilient. However, during a partial Internet failure, DNS may fail in unexpected ways. Frequently the connectivity requirements of DNS differ from those of an application or service.For example, a campus's ability to use Canvas (a popular learning management system hosted in the AWS cloud), requires network connectivity to AWS *and* the DNS servers for root, dot.com, and instructure.com.ApproachDNS resiliency depends-on campus deployment practices and connectivity to the hierarchy of external DNS servers. Through this initiative, we'll collect and share campus deployment practices, as well as identify opportunities to improve the connectivity to the DNS hierarchy made possible by leveraging the Internet2, regional, and campus networks.
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- [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Steve Wallace, 12/05/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Nick Lewis, 12/05/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Steve Wallace, 12/05/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Brad Fleming, 12/05/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Andrew Gallo, 12/05/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [NTAC] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Karl Reuss, 12/06/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] Based on community input, suggesting an DNS Resilience Initiative, Nick Lewis, 12/05/2019
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