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["Hyzer, Chris" <>]

> It looks like there is a “pre delete check” that gets “counts” of objects.

>                 Delete 9 folders

>                 Delete 4 groups

>                 Delete 4 attribute Definitions

>                 Delete 4 attribute names

 

yes

 

>

> Q1: Maybe there should be a way to view the list of those objects?

>                 Maybe a link that pops up a div with the list of objects for

>                 each type?

>                 ( Bonus points for URL lnks to each object. To allow the user to

>                 “open in a new tab” if they want to pop over and look at something

>                 before they say “delete”.)

>                 Maybe a link to show all of the objects in one list? (Maybe using

>                 the new visualization feature? ?  Might be a way to make/collect a

>                 useful artifact about the delete that will be done.)

 

This was considered but was too complicated for the first pass.  Lets add something like this in the future.

 

>

> Q2: Are “Roles” just be counted as “groups”? ( Maybe knowing some are Roles might be helpful? )

 

Yes they are counted as groups

 

>

> Q3: Are the user’s permissions used to get the lists? (AKA: Might a user be able to

> “count” objects that they can not see? )

 

The privs are used.  Users don’t get counts they cant see

 

>

> Q4: Could there also be some information surfaced about the counts by “Types” of objects too?

>                 REF: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+types+on+objects

>                 Knowing that a “reference”/basis/bundle/etc

>  is about to be deleted might

>                 be a good thing to know.

>

 

Sounds like a good idea

 

> Q5: What happens if there is one or more sub objects that the user can not see/delete?

> ( A group in a sub folder that they have no access too?)

>                 The user might want to delete a sub folder, but is not able to empty it.

>                                 Does the operation stop at that point? ( AKA: Partially

>                                 complete by removing all that the user can remove.)

>                                 Roll back? ( transactional integrity for the delete operation.

>                                 It all works or it does nothing.) 

>                                 Not start at all? ( preflight checks don’t even try to start

>                                 the delete and issues a warning of some kind. )

 

The first.  The operation will delete all objects that can be deleted.  If there is an object in a folder that the user doesn’t have ADMIN on then the object and the folder will not be deleted.  This is not an error.

 

 

>

> RE: “Only Grouper admins can delete point in time.” ? Thank You.

>

> 

 

Sure, it was a good suggestions.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Black, Carey M. <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Hyzer, Chris <>; Mailing List <>
Subject: RE: improved delete in folders in UI

 

Chris,

 

It looks like there is a “pre delete check” that gets “counts” of objects.

                Delete 9 folders

                Delete 4 groups

                Delete 4 attribute Definitions

                Delete 4 attribute names

 

Q1: Maybe there should be a way to view the list of those objects?

                Maybe a link that pops up a div with the list of objects for each type?

                ( Bonus points for URL lnks to each object. To allow the user to “open in a new tab” if they want to pop over and look at something before they say “delete”.)

                Maybe a link to show all of the objects in one list? (Maybe using the new visualization feature? J  Might be a way to make/collect a useful artifact about the delete that will be done.)

 

Q2: Are “Roles” just be counted as “groups”? ( Maybe knowing some are Roles might be helpful? )

 

Q3: Are the user’s permissions used to get the lists? (AKA: Might a user be able to “count” objects that they can not see? )

 

Q4: Could there also be some information surfaced about the counts by “Types” of objects too?

                REF: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+types+on+objects

                Knowing that a “reference”/basis/bundle/etc… is about to be deleted might be a good thing to know.

 

Q5: What happens if there is one or more sub objects that the user can not see/delete? ( A group in a sub folder that they have no access too?)

                The user might want to delete a sub folder, but is not able to empty it.

                                Does the operation stop at that point? ( AKA: Partially complete by removing all that the user can remove.)

                                Roll back? ( transactional integrity for the delete operation. It all works or it does nothing.)  

                                Not start at all? ( preflight checks don’t even try to start the delete and issues a warning of some kind. )

 

RE: “Only Grouper admins can delete point in time.” ß Thank You.

 

--

Carey Matthew

 

P.S. You asked for it: AKA: “Let me know any feedback. ” : ) Hope it helps.

 

From: <> On Behalf Of Hyzer, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:26 PM
To: Mailing List <>
Subject: [grouper-users] improved delete in folders in UI

 

There are some patches in 2.4 to allow users to delete multiple objects (i.e. obliterate) in Grouper.

 

https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+UI+folder+delete

 

Let me know any feedback.  Here is one screenshot:

 

 

Thanks

Chris