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  • From: David Langenberg <>
  • To: "Hyzer, Chris" <>, " Mailing List" <>
  • Subject: [grouper-users] RE: grouper and workflow / access forms
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:19:42 +0000
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Other than “gee, isn’t this neat?” what’s the use-case?  I know Docusign is a Net+ offering, but it’s definitely not on a deployment level that, say, Duo or AWS is.  Wouldn’t it be easier (and cheaper) to just extend attestation to include a more robust approval workflow with approvals stored in the grouper audit logs?





David Langenberg

Asst Director, Identity Management

The University of Chicago


From: <> On Behalf Of Hyzer, Chris
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:36 AM
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Subject: [grouper-users] grouper and workflow / access forms


Im not 100% sure it’s the right choice, but hypothetically lets say we integrated Grouper with Docusign.


- Someone clicks on a form in the Grouper UI

- It calls a Docusign API to setup an instance of the form

- User fills out basic form fields and e-signs the document

- The approvers at various roles would be sourced from groups (e.g. the student-data steward group [registrar]).  One from each group signs the form

- At the end the requestor would be added to a group or groups

- Docusign stores the history of the forms


I don’t know if they have discounts for higherEd/nonprofit, but it seems like the cost for this would be for the Basic API, about $1/form ($600/year for 500 forms/year) or ($5k/year for 6k forms/year)


Might need to buy some user licenses to make/manage forms: ($1k for 2-3 users depending on standard or pro)


Who would be interested in using this if we integrated with Docusign?  Any other ideas for forms/workflow products where the licensing is reasonable and there is a full featured REST API?  We would try to make this pluggable of course…









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