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Re: [grouper-users] Managing Service Eligibility

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  • From: Steven Carmody <>
  • To: David Langenberg <>, Andrew Morgan <>
  • Cc: Grouper-Users <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Managing Service Eligibility
  • Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:19:17 -0400
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That's actually our process as well -- we create a set of "base" groups that represent the various slices of the community, and Service Eligibility groups then get built using those "bases".

My question is about the service managers, and the tools that campuses provide to them. With a growing population of Service Mgrs, we're growing less comfortable expecting them to understand and use set math. We're also interested in being able to see "the big picture" -- ie what services is each (sub) community eligible for? And we think allowing everyone to see that grid would help new service managers to get a feel for the landscape -- what are the service similar to theirs, and which groups are eligible for those services?

Has anyone starting thinking about tools like that ?

On 6/21/17 1:34 PM, David Langenberg wrote:
Yes, agreed, we teach our non-programmers about the reference tree and how to
use grouper’s set-math capability to create their own rules / logic to meet
their needs. We try to keep business logic out of the loader jobs as much as
possible so that the groups produced are generic enough to be used as a set
of building blocks for meeting your specific need.


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