Thanks a lot ! Attribute Framework will
allow us much more possibilities to implement our usecase.
Good day !
Brigitte
Le 08/03/2017 à 16:47, Hyzer, Chris a écrit :
The legacy types/attributes are implemented in 2.3 as
attributeDef/attributeDefName, so yes, you can do that :) We
would like to add that to the new UI soon.
Thanks
Chris
From:
Wallaert-Taquet Brigitte
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:07 AM
To: Hyzer, Chris; Jared Hoffman
Cc: Imholz, John J.; ;
Carter Schoenfeld
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] RE: Attribute
Framework example
Le 16/11/2016 à 21:25, Hyzer,
Chris a écrit :
Sorry, lots of confusion… I will be
updating the wiki…
J
Attributes live in the namespace (in
a folder) just like groups and folders.
So in the new UI currently you see
the gear icon because that attribute definition or
name lives in that folder, not assigned to that
folder. You currently need the lite UI to view
attribute assignments or assign them. Having this
in the new UI is a work in progress.
Hello,
I view the diagrams on attribute framework and thanks
because it help a lot but i have again questions.
I'm wondering to know if the Grouper 2.4 would allow to
assign an attribute name with the NewUI ?
So, I'm wondering also to know if our usecase would be
better with several AttributeDefinition and several
AttributeName instead of one type and its several fields ?
So, I explain our usecase :
Currently, we have one type
named "GroupeUdl" and 5 optional fields attached :
GroupeUdl ---> optional fields : cn-ldap - nom-liste -
type-liste - groupe-sender - date-fin (cf screen
type-GroupeUdl.jpg)
Notes : cn-ldap is calculated
and then filled with a hook at the creation of each group
(group.setAttribute(attrIdLdap, cnValue);) - the 4 others
fields are filled with AdminUI (cf screen
fill-fields-type.jpg) - all the fields are displayed with
changes in groupHeader.jsp, even if they're not filled (cf
screens View-fields-filled.jpg -
View-fields-half-filled.jpg)
Tomorrow, with Grouper 2.4,
perhaps it would be better to use Attribute Definition and
Attribute Name ?
For example with the field
"type-liste", we create an Attribute Definition
"test-type-liste" (cf screen attributeDefinition.jpg)
then, we create several values like "liste interne" and
"liste modérée" (cf screens attributName-1.jpg -
attributeName-2.jpg). So, with liteUI today, perhaps NewUI
tomorrow ?, we can assign one (not needed several here) of
thoses attributeNames to a group (see screens
attributeName-1-to-group1.jpg -
attributeName-2-to-group2.jpg). My idea is ok for you ?
Thanks !
Brigitte
My question is, if you are looking at
a group in the new UI, and you click on an upcoming
“attributes” tab. You want to be able to assign
this attribute and value to certain groups. You
said “We don't need this attribute for every group
in Grouper, but it wouldn't bother us it if was
there.” So are there certain folders that groups
live in that can get this assignment, or it could be
any folder? Is this a provisioning thing? Does it
use a change log consumer?
Thanks
Chris
From: Jared
Hoffman []
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:06 PM
To: Hyzer, Chris
Cc: Imholz, John J. ; ; Carter Schoenfeld
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] RE: Attribute
Framework example
The attribute definition and
name objects do currently show up in the UI as
gear icons.
If it was by parent folder, that
might be confusing if it applied to sub folders.
Looking at the UI, I would assume it would apply at
that level and below.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:09
PM, Hyzer, Chris <>
wrote:
Just curious… if it were in
the UI, how do you know which groups it
should show up for? By parent folder?
From:
Jared Hoffman [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016
1:39 PM
To: Hyzer, Chris <>
Cc: Imholz, John J. <>;
;
Carter Schoenfeld <>
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] RE:
Attribute Framework example
Our
initial confusion was understanding
the relationship between attribute
definition, attribute name and what
the attribute was attached to. As we
played with the shell and UI interface
we saw where the attributes were
stored, but we weren't sure how it all
connected.
Our use
case is to add an ID number to a
group to help us link it to another
system. Our mistaken assumption was
that attributes would appear in the
group admin UI like grouper loader
settings, like types. So perhaps
examples of an attribute use case
would help with the concept. We
don't need this attribute for every
group in Grouper, but it wouldn't
bother us it if was there.
We are
not concerned with attribute
permissions since we're working only
at the admin level, not delegated
attributes at this time.
Any
direction would be appreciated.
On Mon,
Nov 14, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Hyzer,
Chris <>
wrote:
Maybe
we could start by you letting me
know which parts of this document
are confusing or need more
information...
https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+attribute+framework
Or whatever questions you have and
I can update the wiki.
Others welcome to comment too :)
Thanks
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Hoffman [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, November 14,
2016 9:52 AM
To: Hyzer, Chris <>
Cc: Imholz, John J. <>;
Subject: Re: [grouper-users]
RE: Attribute Framework
example
> Hmmm, maybe we need an
attribute framework training
module.
Yes! Please!
We just stat down to try to
figure out the attribute
framework (first
time) to place some values
we'd like to use when
programming
memberships to another system.
Jared
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:31
AM, Hyzer, Chris <>
wrote:
> Hmmm, maybe we need an
attribute framework training
module.
>
> Maybe if you want to lay
out your design and run it by
the list we could give you
comments... :)
>
> Seems straightforward
your positions on stems.
>
> Yes, with 2.3 you can
create a def, def name,
assign, and value.
>
> Before 2.3 you could do
everything except the def.
The documentation for the def
is not yet there but again ask
any questions :)
>
> Ok?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From:
[mailto:]
On Behalf Of Imholz, John J.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31,
2016 9:19 AM
> To:
> Subject: [grouper-users]
Attribute Framework example
>
> Are there other examples
(other than
https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+attribute+framework
) of using the attribute
framework ?
>
> I'm a little confused
with that one (too many
parameters seem to be the same
or similar.)
>
> I've got an org in
version 2.3 and I'd like to
assign some "position"
attributes to stems. Stems
could have a "state_positions"
attribute indicating how many
state approved positions are
in that org. Stems could also
have a "hospital_positions"
indicating how many positions
are approved by the hospital.
>
> Can all of this (create
def, create def name, assign
with value) be done with web
services?
>
> jji
>
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