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  • From: Michael R Gettes <>
  • To: Shilen Patel <>
  • Cc: " Mailing List" <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] real-time loader
  • Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:06:49 -0500
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Hey Shilen,

ok, your explanation here is very similar to what is on the wiki page - and
for some reason this explanation makes more sense to me. go figure.

Thanks so much. I look forward to this capability. And yes, persistent
search may not be perfect - but good enough. Of course, if apps were kind
and deleted/modified certain attributes before they deleted the entry then
the persistent search would be even more useful.

and No - THANK YOU!

I wish you and your fellow Grouper dev team Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah
and a very Happy and Healthy New Year!


> On Dec 18, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Shilen Patel
> <>
> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> I just created a jira for the first step of this effort:
> The idea is that you can put triggers on the tables that you use for your
> SQL jobs to update another table to indicate the subjects that have been
> updated. Then this new job will compare the subjects' groups in Grouper
> and the source and make the appropriate changes.
> There will be more after this including integration with messaging.
> Perhaps using an ldap change log. The persistent search idea is
> interesting as well. That may not handle deletes as well, but should be
> fine for adds at least?
> Thanks!
> - Shilen
> On 12/16/16, 4:55 PM, "Michael R Gettes"
> <>
> wrote:
>> I know Chris has discussed in the past work going on for a real-time
>> loader capability.
>> i found
>> tes
>> i poked around Jira and couldnąt find an obvious jira item indicating any
>> active work and the wiki page doesnąt say which item and i didnąt find
>> any jira item pointing to the wiki page.
>> I read the page - i thought there was an ability for SQL SELECT to
>> persist looking for changes or to consult some table for changes in the
>> DB - depending on the DB. In LDAP, there is a V3 control for a
>> persistent search. I know 389 LDAP supports it. I believe openldap does
>> but have not tried to verify. Wouldnąt these be useful approaches?
>> Anyway, a pointer the right Jira item would be appreciated and info about
>> the future of this development is also appreciated.
>> Thanks all - have a great weekend!
>> /mrg

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