Grouper Users - Open Discussion List

[Michael R Gettes <>]

Hey Shilen,

ok, your explanation here is very similar to what is on the wiki page - and 
for some reason this explanation makes more sense to me.  go figure.

Thanks so much.  I look forward to this capability.  And yes, persistent 
search may not be perfect - but good enough.  Of course, if apps were kind 
and deleted/modified certain attributes before they deleted the entry then 
the persistent search would be even more useful.

and No - THANK YOU!

I wish you and your fellow Grouper dev team Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah 
and a very Happy and Healthy New Year!

/mrg

> On Dec 18, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Shilen Patel 
> <>
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I just created a jira for the first step of this effort:
> 
> https://bugs.internet2.edu/jira/browse/GRP-1445
> 
> 
> The idea is that you can put triggers on the tables that you use for your
> SQL jobs to update another table to indicate the subjects that have been
> updated.  Then this new job will compare the subjects' groups in Grouper
> and the source and make the appropriate changes.
> 
> There will be more after this including integration with messaging.
> Perhaps using an ldap change log.  The persistent search idea is
> interesting as well.  That may not handle deletes as well, but should be
> fine for adds at least?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Shilen
> 
> On 12/16/16, 4:55 PM, "Michael R Gettes" 
> <>
>  wrote:
> 
>> I know Chris has discussed in the past work going on for a real-time
>> loader capability.
>> 
>> i found 
>> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+loader+real+time+upda
>> tes
>> 
>> i poked around Jira and couldnąt find an obvious jira item indicating any
>> active work and the wiki page doesnąt say which item and i didnąt find
>> any jira item pointing to the wiki page.
>> 
>> I read the page - i thought there was an ability for SQL SELECT to
>> persist looking for changes or to consult some table for changes in the
>> DB - depending on the DB.  In LDAP, there is a V3 control for a
>> persistent search.  I know 389 LDAP supports it.  I believe openldap does
>> but have not tried to verify.  Wouldnąt these be useful approaches?
>> 
>> Anyway, a pointer the right Jira item would be appreciated and info about
>> the future of this development is also appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks all - have a great weekend!
>> 
>> /mrg
>> 
>