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[Chris Hyzer <>]

Do you want to get the members who are in any of the groups, or all of the 
groups (AND or OR)?
How many groups are there?  Can you add them to another overall group or use 
composites to have one overall group?

Thanks,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff McCullough 
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Chris Hyzer
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 CalNet Administration
Subject: Re: [grouper-users] REST query string

The customer for the client app wants to look at this as one uniquely sorted 
query, more like a JOIN across the specified groups. Is that at all possible?

Jeff

On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Chris Hyzer wrote:

> I don't know what you are expecting it to return...  Note the paging is for 
> each group, since there is a separate query for each group.  When you do a 
> getMembers for multiple groups, it returns a list for each group...  can 
> you call it for one group at a time when paging?  :)
> 
> Example:
> 
> GroupA:
> memberA0
> memberA1
> memberA2
> memberA3
> 
> GroupB:
> memberB0
> memberB1
> 
> ################
> 
> Get first page of size 2 for groups GroupA,GroupB:
> 
> Results
>       - GroupA
>               - memberA0
>               - memberA1
>       - GroupB
>               - memberB0
>               - memberB1
> 
> ###############
> 
> Get the second page of size 2 for groups GroupA,GroupB:
> 
> Not sure if this throw an error since there is no second page of size 2 for 
> GroupB, or if it is an empty list...  I would think it would be an empty 
> list:
> 
> Results
>       - GroupA
>               - memberA2
>               - memberA3
>       - GroupB
>               <no members returned>
> 
> 
> Is this what you expect?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff McCullough 
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>  
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:59 PM
> To: Chris Hyzer
> Cc: 
> ;
>  CalNet Administration
> Subject: Re: [grouper-users] REST query string
> 
> You are awesome. Thank you sooo much. :) A quick question about sorting. 
> Will it check for uniqueness across the listed groups?
> 
> Thank you,
> Jeff
> 
> On Sep 14, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Chris Hyzer wrote:
> 
>> ok, I have paging/sorting working in the logic, now I need to test more, 
>> document, expose in the WS transfer objects, REST/SOAP/WSDL/etc, implement 
>> in client, test client, change the configs for a 2.1.3 build, do a build, 
>> and put on server...  :)  Will let you know
>> 
>> Chris
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Jeff McCullough 
>> []
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:21 PM
>> To: Chris Hyzer
>> Cc: 
>> ;
>>  CalNet Administration
>> Subject: Re: [grouper-users] REST query string
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I understand your concern, but the groups being accessed are reference 
>> groups that won't be changing at the same time. The SQL interface idea is 
>> interesting, but I'm very reluctant to give them access to the underlying 
>> db. It is probably best to stick with the REST interface paging if you are 
>> game.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Chris Hyzer wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are downloading all memberss from a group, I worry about paging... 
>>>  I think paging is great for UIs though.
>>> 
>>> If a member is added while the page queries are being executing, a member 
>>> could be missed.
>>> 
>>> e.g.
>>> 
>>> Grouper members:
>>> 
>>> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
>>> 
>>> App gets the page of size 2 starting at index 0: 1,2
>>> App gets the page of size 2 starting at index 2: 3,4
>>> 
>>> Then item #2 is removed:
>>> 
>>> 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
>>> 
>>> App gets the page of size 2 starting at index 4: 6,7
>>> 
>>> Note that member 5 was missed, even though they are in the group.
>>> 
>>> So... do you think they can just get all the members at once without 
>>> paging (even though size of 10k)?  There is also the Grouper SQL 
>>> interface of reading grouper_memberships_v (filter on field and group) 
>>> which can be used for large exports...
>>> 
>>> If you still want paging in WS, no problem, it looks like I could add 
>>> this to getMembers without much trouble, let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeff McCullough 
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>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:56 PM
>>> To: Chris Hyzer
>>> Cc: 
>>> ;
>>>  CalNet Administration
>>> Subject: Re: [grouper-users] REST query string
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the info. We were just hooking our first real client app, and 
>>> the paging thing is going to be a deal breaker for them. Putting part of 
>>> the query in the request body is workable. The client app will be pulling 
>>> group data that will frequently be in the 10s of thousands, and they 
>>> would prefer to pull about 500 members at a time. Do you have a sense of 
>>> how much effort adding paging to getMembers might be, and a rough time 
>>> frame? I can maybe steer them to using LDAP groups, but the window of 
>>> opportunity they have to change to using grouper for the app is fairly 
>>> short. I'm a little worried they may be lost on other projects for a very 
>>> long time. Okay... Enough pleading. :) Let me know.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Chris Hyzer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A couple of gaps unfortunately... for the params to be in the URL, it 
>>>> has to be a Lite operation, and you can only get members from one group 
>>>> at a time in a Lite getMembers or getMemberships operation.  If you want 
>>>> to pass a JSON/XML/XHTML string in the body of the request, you can 
>>>> specify multiple groups.  I don't see where there is paging on 
>>>> getMembers or getMemberships... I think we need to add that.
>>>> 
>>>> https://bugs.internet2.edu/jira/browse/GRP-845
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 
>>>> 
>>>>  
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>>>>  On Behalf Of Jeff McCullough
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:48 PM
>>>> To: 
>>>> 
>>>> Subject: [grouper-users] REST query string
>>>> 
>>>> Quick question. Is it possible to compose a REST like query in one URL 
>>>> that uses paging and requests subjects from more than one group?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jeff
>>> 
>> 
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