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  • From: Chris Hyzer <>
  • To: Thomas M Goerger <>, "" <>
  • Subject: RE: [grouper-users] FERPA Suppression of user entries
  • Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:03:23 -0500
  • Accept-language: en-US
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We have been considering this issue, not sure if it is being slated for 1.5
or not...

I understand that we don't want just everyone to see that the subjectId or
name of a student is in a certain group, but Im unsure how it would work...

Do you have a vision for how you would answer these questions?

1. Remind me again the use case, why would you give someone list access to a
group where seeing the partial list would help them... why not only give list
access to people who are allowed? Maybe grouper should default to not give
read/list access to anything... isn't that a more natural fit for
universities? Or am I just paranoid? :)

2. How do you designate that a group is ferpa protected, or are all groups?

3. How do you designate which subjects are ferpa protected (subject

4. How do you designate who is allowed to see the student data (is it global,
e.g. user must be in etc:ferpaLister group)? Or is it local to a group, e.g.
we need a new privilege like ferpaList, and any user assigned to that can
list all members).

5. On the UI or WS, the subject would be displayed as: <private> or some
label, right?

6. What about LDAP, how would some people be able to see the data and some

7. Does this apply to the subject finder where you search for people (e.g. to
add to group) and you don't see everyone's name / subjectId unless you are
allowed to see students?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas M Goerger
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:32 PM
> To:
> Subject: [grouper-users] FERPA Suppression of user entries
> Hi,
> Awhile back I had written to ask about suppression of user information
> in
> the Grouper display for FERPA requirements. I haven't heard anything
> back
> about that in awhile, and was wondering if there were any updates that
> I
> could get. If it helps, I can send some of the discussion back to the
> list, if there's any need of a memory refresher.
> Thanks,
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