Grouper Users - Open Discussion List

[Tom Barton <>]

Hi Josef,

I'm glad to hear you're interested in developing a simpler UI aimed at 
non-technical users. I think lots of people share that interest.

When you're ready to, it would be best to discuss detailed plans for the 
UI in the grouper-dev list, and even better if someone can join the 
grouper-dev conference calls at appropriate times to ensure the best 
coordination of effort.

The current UI's batch import and export was aimed at occasional and ad 
hoc group management. Alternatives to consider are xml import/export, 
the Grouper Loader developed by the University of Pennsylvania that's in 
the latest release, and Grouper Shell.

How many groups and how many memberships do you expect to handle, overall?

Tom

Josef Krupička wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we plan to use Grouper in our IT infrastructure and we have resources 
> (skilled java developer) to improve current state of Grouper. We have 
> some difficulties with Grouper UI and speed of data importing and 
> exporting. I tried version built from CVS HEAD.
>
> Current version of Grouper UI is much better and faster than previous 
> versions but it is still not so fast and "user friendly" as we would 
> like. I can imagine more responsive and simpler UI (it must be 
> accessible to teachers and staff with nearly no IT skills). We have good 
> experience with Adobe Flex and it won't be so hard to create other 
> version of UI with this framework. Are you interested in this kind of 
> extension?
>
> Secondly we need fast way to batch import and export groups and 
> memberships. I browsed  source codes of Grouper API and I think there is 
> way to optimize it. We use Oracle as main database platform and with use 
> of its features (PL/SQL procedures, triggers, custom datatypes, ...) 
> lots of operations (inserting, updating modified hierarchy, ...) will be 
> in my opinion much faster. I will try to create prototype and post some 
> results.
>
> In near future we will need to connect Grouper with Sun IDM. In current 
> version there is no simple way to find out information about deleted 
> groups and memberships. Do you plan to implement this feature?
>
> Josef Krupicka
> University of West Bohemia in Pilsen, Czech republic

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