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- From: Tom Zeller <>
- To: Chris Hyzer <>
- Cc: Grouper Dev <>
- Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?
- Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:51:26 -0500
I guess I need help adding the ldappcng full sync job type to the loader.
I added this to the GrouperLoaderType enum :
/** * Run an ldappcng full sync. */ LDAPPCNG_FULL_SYNC {
public boolean attributeRequired(String attributeName) {
return false; }
public boolean attributeOptional(String attributeName) {
return false; }
public void runJob(LoaderJobBean loaderJobBean) {
GrouperContext.createNewDefaultContext(GrouperEngineBuiltin.LOADER,
false, true);
Hib3GrouperLoaderLog hib3GrouploaderLog =
loaderJobBean.getHib3GrouploaderLogOverall(); String
theClassName =
GrouperLoaderConfig.getPropertyString("changeLog.ldappcng.fullsync.class");
Class<?> theClass = GrouperUtil.forName(theClassName);
GrouperLoaderJob job = (GrouperLoaderJob)
GrouperUtil.newInstance(theClass);
job.runJob(hib3GrouploaderLog, (Group)null,
loaderJobBean.getGrouperSession()); } };
I copied the change log type enum, which instantiates a class defined
in grouper-loader.properties, which here I assume extends Job.
Is this correct ? I am not sure what to do.
Thanks,
TomZ
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Chris Hyzer
<>
wrote:
> Sure, either that or make a new type for ldapppncg full sync... I have been
> globbing in the minor stuff into MAINTENANCE, either way :) Ignore the
> required and optional attributes... that more for the loader
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
>
>
> [mailto:]
> On Behalf Of Tom Zeller
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:29 AM
> To: Chris Hyzer
> Cc: Grouper Dev
> Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and
> clobbering avoidance ?
>
> Right. But I am confused. Loader jobs are StatefulJobs :
>
> public class GrouperLoaderJob implements Job, StatefulJob {
>
> so can I just add another Job to the loader to do the full-sync ?
>
> I see you added LDAP_SIMPLE, LDAP_GROUP_LIST, etc. Can I re-use
> GrouperLoaderType.MAINTENANCE somehow ?
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Chris Hyzer
> <>
> wrote:
>> Note that the incremental should be reading the static with a method, and
>> nothing outside of the full sync should be able to edit it, right? :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>>
>>
>> [mailto:]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Zeller
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:41 AM
>> To: Chris Hyzer
>> Cc: Grouper Dev
>> Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and
>> clobbering avoidance ?
>>
>> Yeah. I need a static "lock" variable and a static instance of the
>> provisioning class.
>>
>> These statics will exist just in the loader jvm, right ?
>>
>> I was avoiding statics because I was not sure what all might share the
>> instance of the provisioning class, like any other process controlled
>> by the loader.
>>
>> I will give it a try.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Chris Hyzer
>> <>
>> wrote:
>>> Can you just set a static variable in a try/finally block which says the
>>> full sync is running, and if so, just return the first index which means
>>> it didn't make any progress. I think (hope) that doesn't log an error...
>>> alternately, the incremental could just sleep for 5 seconds in a loop
>>> until the full is done (by static variable), no more incrementals will
>>> start while the one didn't finish...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>>
>>>
>>> [mailto:]
>>> On Behalf Of Tom Zeller
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:26 PM
>>> To: Chris Hyzer
>>> Cc: Grouper Dev
>>> Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and
>>> clobbering avoidance ?
>>>
>>>> Nothing except the change log process should be inserting stuff into the
>>>> change log table.
>>>> I don't think inserting records into the change log table will solve the
>>>> problem, you will always have race conditions
>>>>
>>>> What about this part of my previous email:
>>>>
>>>>> the full sync decides to add a member to a group, but the incremental
>>>>> also wants to do that.
>>>>> Each process will need to ignore it if the member if already in the
>>>>> group, right?
>>>>
>>>> Can it be idempotent? So if it is already done it doesn't fail?
>>>
>>> Yup, for membership adds and deletes we have to search first, then
>>> perform necessary modifications. In other words :
>>>
>>> 1 calculate correct provisioning
>>> 2 lookup current provisioning
>>> 3 determine the difference between correct and current provisioning
>>> 4 apply any necessary modifications
>>>
>>> Here is a use case :
>>>
>>> 0 changelog : "add member to group"
>>> 1 incremental sync : "add member to group" - lookup membership
>>> 2 incremental sync : "add member to group" - add member to group
>>>
>>> 3 full sync : calculate correct provisioning of group
>>> 4 changelog : "delete member from group"
>>>
>>> If we perform the incremental sync while the full sync is running :
>>>
>>> 5a incremental sync : "delete member from group" : lookup membership
>>> 6a incremental sync : "delete member to group" - delete member from group
>>> 7a full sync : lookup current provisioning of group
>>> 8a full sync : diff - will add member to group
>>> 9a full sync : modify - add member to group
>>>
>>> Performing the incremental sync during the full sync will incorrectly
>>> provision the group.
>>>
>>> If we wait to perform the incremental sync until the full sync is
>>> finished running :
>>>
>>> 5b incremental sync : begin wait
>>> 6b full sync : lookup current provisioning of group
>>> 7b full sync : diff
>>> 8b full sync : modify
>>> 9b incremental sync : end wait
>>> 10b incremental sync : "delete member from group" : lookup membership
>>> 11b incremental sync : "delete member to group" - delete member from group
>>>
>>> Performing the incremental sync after the full sync completes will
>>> correctly provision the group.
>>>
>>> Here is a slightly different use case demonstrating the need for
>>> idempotence :
>>>
>>> 0 changelog : "add member to group"
>>> 1 incremental sync : "add member to group" - lookup membership
>>> 2 incremental sync : "add member to group" - add member to group
>>>
>>> 3 changelog : "delete member from group"
>>> 4 full sync : calculate correct provisioning of group
>>>
>>> 5c incremental sync : begin wait
>>> 6c full sync : lookup current provisioning of group
>>> 7c full sync : diff - will delete member from group
>>> 8c full sync : modify - delete member from group
>>> 9c incremental sync : end wait
>>> 10b incremental sync : "delete member from group" : lookup membership
>>> 11b incremental sync : "delete member to group" - no changes necessary
>>>
>>> So, I guess the ldappcng change log consumer will need a cron entry in
>>> grouper-loader.properties to know when to trigger the full sync, and
>>> it will need to know that a full sync is running to delay provisioning
>>> of *any* change log entries until the full sync is complete.
>>>
>>> I had originally thought that we could delay provisioning per
>>> identifier, but it is simpler to just delay the whole incremental job.
>>> So, we can say we have real-time provisioning except when the full
>>> sync is running, which should be configurable and can default to once
>>> nightly.
>>>
>>> Are loader jobs Quartz Scheduler jobs in any way ? Can I extend
>>> StatefulJob somehow in the change log consumer class to prevent
>>> concurrency ? That would be a nice one-liner.
>>>
>>
>
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/19/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/19/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/19/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/19/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/19/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/20/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/20/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/20/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/21/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/21/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/28/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/28/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/20/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/20/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/19/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/19/2011
- Re: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Tom Zeller, 10/19/2011
- RE: [grouper-dev] [ldappcng] real-time & batch scheduling and clobbering avoidance ?, Chris Hyzer, 10/19/2011
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