Grouper Developers Forum

[Steve Olshansky <>]

Hi All-
I haven't seen much response, so I am guessing folks are busy and would 
prefer to cancel the call today in Tom's absence.

If you do have items you would like to talk about today please toss them out 
to the list ASAP. 

Barring that we will cancel...

THX
        Steve


On May 12, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Steve Olshansky wrote:

> Hi All-
> I believe Tom is traveling today. Is there critical mass for a call? 
> Continue planning discussions for the next release? Or other?
> 
> THX
>       Steve
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Emily Eisbruch wrote:
> 
>> Grouper Call 14-Apr-2010
>> 
>> *Attending*
>> Tom Barton, U. Chicago  (Chair)
>> Gary Brown, Bristol
>> Shilen Patel, Duke 
>> Chris Hyzer, U. Penn  
>> Tom Zeller, U. Memphis 
>> Ron Hebron, Cardiff University
>> Steve Olshansky, Internet2  
>> Emily Eisbruch (scribe)
>> 
>> 
>> *New Action Items*
>> 
>> [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
>> 
>> [AI] (Rob) will send information to the list about rule-based actions.
>> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engin
>> 
>> [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later. 
>>  
>> 
>> [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
>> 
>> [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
>> 
>> Note: Grouper 1.6 Code Freeze is Friday May 7
>> 
>> 
>> **Discussion**
>> 
>> *Grouper Release Procedures*
>> 
>> The release procedures worked reasonably well for the Grouper 1.5.3. 
>> release.  An initial issue of a missing library was fixed.
>> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/GrouperWG/Release+steps
>> 
>> It was suggested that for each release someone on the dev team  (to be 
>> selected on a rotation) should check out all the packages and do a build 
>> and a quick start. Possibly the built version could then be used as a 
>> demo/test version. 
>> 
>> [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
>> 
>> *Use of Grouper-Dev List*
>> 
>> A discussion of an issue involving composite groups led to the suggestion 
>> that all emails about programming issues should be sent to the entire 
>> grouper-dev list so that everyone is up to speed during calls. 
>> 
>> 
>> *Topics for Sunday Evening Grouper-Dev dinner at SMM*
>> 
>> - Roadmap, design issues
>> 
>> - Coordinate on Grouper 1.6 issues
>> 
>> - Rule Engines  -- see Rob’s info at 
>> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engine
>> 
>> License issues -- Chris and TomZ will work on these during the SMM, but 
>> probably not during the Sunday dinner.
>> 
>> Opportunities to meet the community and shmooze at SMM were discussed. 
>> 
>> 
>> *Plan for Grouper Working Group Session at SMM*
>> 
>> -Overhead, agenda build  
>> 
>> -Roadmap discussion 15 minutes 
>> 
>> -New Grouper priv. mgmt features to manage access in Active Directory. 
>> (Shilen and Rob) 15 min.
>> 
>> -What’s New with Grouper 1.6.   (Chris and TomZ) 30 minutes  - Grouper Kim 
>> workflow
>>    - Notification proof of concept demo.
>>    - demo using web services to define permissions.
>>    - TomZ on Ldappc - ng (start with recap, clarify that Grouper data 
>> connection for Shib is included)
>> 
>> -  Issues posed by attendees
>> 
>> *Performance*
>> 
>> Due to the full agenda, there won't be an presentation on performance 
>> issues at the SMM Grouper WG session.  
>> TomB will create a list of performance issues to think about later, 
>> possibly including:
>> 
>> -Impact of Flattened Memberships on performance and queries
>> 
>> - Write operations for group management
>> (affects composite groups)
>> 
>> - Rendering memberships of extremely large groups 
>> 
>> - Should limited queries be allowed to increase response time, i.e., “give 
>> me all groups that Joe belongs to but only in a particular stem “ 
>> 
>> [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later. 
>>  
>> 
>> *Grouper 1.6 Release*
>> 
>> Rob's ESB connector work will be included in  the release of Grouper 1.6,
>> with a caveat that it is experimental.
>> 
>> Integration testing for the ESB connector is complex, involving systems 
>> beyond Grouper itself.
>> What about using web services to test, or adding a servlet in the web XML?
>> 
>> [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
>> 
>> It was noted that ldappc also poses challenges for end to end testing.
>> 
>> [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
>> 
>> Friday May 7 is the code freeze for Grouper 1.6
>> 
>> There will be a special "off week" call to discuss the release on Wed. May 
>> 5.
>> 
>> 
>> Next Meeting:  At Internet2 Spring Member Meeting, Monday, April 26, 
>> 10:30am - noon
>> http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/agenda.cfm?go=session&id=10001170&event=910
>> 
>> Next Call:  Wed. May 12, noon ET
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Emily Eisbruch, Technology Transfer Analyst
>> Internet2
>> 
>> office: +1-734-352-4996 | mobile +1-734-730-5749
>> 
>> Internet2 Spring Member Meeting
>> April 26-28, 2010 - Arlington, Virginia
>> http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/
>> 
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> Steve Olshansky
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