Grouper Developers Forum

[Tom Barton <>]

Though please note that we have reserved noon eastern Wed May 5, ie, the 
off-week, in case we need that time for last-minute coordination of the 
v1.6 release.

Emily or Steve, do we already have a bridge for that time, or can one be 
setup?

Thanks!
Tom

Steve Olshansky wrote:
> due to conflict with the Internet2 Spring Member Meeting.
>
> Next Call:  Wed. May 12, noon ET
>
> Cheers-
>         Steve
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Emily Eisbruch wrote:
>
> > Grouper Call 14-Apr-2010
> >
> >  *Attending*
> > Tom Barton, U. Chicago  (Chair)
> > Gary Brown, Bristol
> > Shilen Patel, Duke 
> > Chris Hyzer, U. Penn  
> > Tom Zeller, U. Memphis 
> > Ron Hebron, Cardiff University
> > Steve Olshansky, Internet2  
> > Emily Eisbruch (scribe)
> >  
> >
> > *New Action Items*
> >  
> > [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
> >
> > [AI] (Rob) will send information to the list about rule-based actions.
> > https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engin
> >
> > [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later.  
> >
> > [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
> >
> > [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
> >
> > Note: Grouper 1.6 Code Freeze is Friday May 7
> >
> >
> > **Discussion**
> >
> > *Grouper Release Procedures*
> >
> > The release procedures worked reasonably well for the Grouper 1.5.3. release. 
> >  An initial issue of a missing library was fixed.
> > https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/GrouperWG/Release+steps
> >
> > It was suggested that for each release someone on the dev team  (to be selected on a rotation) should check out all the packages and do a build and a quick start. Possibly the built version could then be used as a demo/test version. 
> >  
> > [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
> >
> > *Use of Grouper-Dev List*
> >
> > A discussion of an issue involving composite groups led to the suggestion that all emails about programming issues should be sent to the entire grouper-dev list so that everyone is up to speed during calls. 
> >
> >
> > *Topics for Sunday Evening Grouper-Dev dinner at SMM*
> >
> > - Roadmap, design issues
> >
> > - Coordinate on Grouper 1.6 issues
> >
> > - Rule Engines  -- see Rob’s info at 
> > https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engine
> >
> > License issues -- Chris and TomZ will work on these during the SMM, but 
> > probably not during the Sunday dinner.
> >
> > Opportunities to meet the community and shmooze at SMM were discussed. 
> >
> >
> > *Plan for Grouper Working Group Session at SMM*
> >
> > -Overhead, agenda build  
> >
> > -Roadmap discussion 15 minutes 
> >
> > -New Grouper priv. mgmt features to manage access in Active Directory. 
> > (Shilen and Rob) 15 min.
> >  
> > -What’s New with Grouper 1.6.   (Chris and TomZ) 30 minutes  - Grouper Kim workflow
> >     - Notification proof of concept demo.
> >     - demo using web services to define permissions.
> >     - TomZ on Ldappc - ng (start with recap, clarify that Grouper data 
> > connection for Shib is included)
> >
> > -  Issues posed by attendees
> >
> > *Performance*
> >
> > Due to the full agenda, there won't be an presentation on performance issues at the SMM Grouper WG session.   
> > TomB will create a list of performance issues to think about later, possibly including:
> >
> > -Impact of Flattened Memberships on performance and queries
> >
> >  - Write operations for group management
> > (affects composite groups)
> >
> > - Rendering memberships of extremely large groups 
> >
> > - Should limited queries be allowed to increase response time, i.e., “give me all groups that Joe belongs to but only in a particular stem “ 
> >  
> > [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later.  
> >
> > *Grouper 1.6 Release*
> >
> > Rob's ESB connector work will be included in  the release of Grouper 1.6,
> >  with a caveat that it is experimental.
> >
> > Integration testing for the ESB connector is complex, involving systems 
> > beyond Grouper itself.
> > What about using web services to test, or adding a servlet in the web XML?
> >
> > [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
> >
> > It was noted that ldappc also poses challenges for end to end testing.
> >
> > [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
> >
> > Friday May 7 is the code freeze for Grouper 1.6
> >  
> > There will be a special "off week" call to discuss the release on Wed. May 5.
> >
> >
> > Next Meeting:  At Internet2 Spring Member Meeting, Monday, April 26, 10:30am 
> > - noon
> > http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/agenda.cfm?go=session&id=10001170&event=910
> >
> > Next Call:  Wed. May 12, noon ET
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Emily Eisbruch, Technology Transfer Analyst
> > Internet2
> >
> > office: +1-734-352-4996 | mobile +1-734-730-5749
> >
> > Internet2 Spring Member Meeting
> > April 26-28, 2010 - Arlington, Virginia
> > http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/
>
> --
> Steve Olshansky
> Internet2 Middleware & Security Flywheel
> http://www.internet2.edu/middleware/
> http://www.internet2.edu/security/