Grouper Developers Forum

[Steve Olshansky <>]

due to conflict with the Internet2 Spring Member Meeting.

Next Call:  Wed. May 12, noon ET

Cheers-
        Steve


On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Emily Eisbruch wrote:

> Grouper Call 14-Apr-2010
> 
>  *Attending*
> Tom Barton, U. Chicago  (Chair)
> Gary Brown, Bristol
> Shilen Patel, Duke 
> Chris Hyzer, U. Penn  
> Tom Zeller, U. Memphis 
> Ron Hebron, Cardiff University
> Steve Olshansky, Internet2  
> Emily Eisbruch (scribe)
>  
> 
> *New Action Items*
>  
> [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
> 
> [AI] (Rob) will send information to the list about rule-based actions.
> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engin
> 
> [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later.  
> 
> [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
> 
> [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
> 
> Note: Grouper 1.6 Code Freeze is Friday May 7
> 
> 
> **Discussion**
> 
> *Grouper Release Procedures*
> 
> The release procedures worked reasonably well for the Grouper 1.5.3. 
> release.  An initial issue of a missing library was fixed.
> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/GrouperWG/Release+steps
> 
> It was suggested that for each release someone on the dev team  (to be 
> selected on a rotation) should check out all the packages and do a build 
> and a quick start. Possibly the built version could then be used as a 
> demo/test version. 
>  
> [AI] (Chris and SteveO) will discuss setting up a test instance of Grouper.
> 
> *Use of Grouper-Dev List*
> 
> A discussion of an issue involving composite groups led to the suggestion 
> that all emails about programming issues should be sent to the entire 
> grouper-dev list so that everyone is up to speed during calls. 
> 
> 
> *Topics for Sunday Evening Grouper-Dev dinner at SMM*
> 
> - Roadmap, design issues
> 
> - Coordinate on Grouper 1.6 issues
> 
> - Rule Engines  -- see Rob’s info at 
> https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/~/Drools+rules+engine
> 
> License issues -- Chris and TomZ will work on these during the SMM, but 
> probably not during the Sunday dinner.
> 
> Opportunities to meet the community and shmooze at SMM were discussed. 
> 
> 
> *Plan for Grouper Working Group Session at SMM*
> 
> -Overhead, agenda build  
> 
> -Roadmap discussion 15 minutes 
> 
> -New Grouper priv. mgmt features to manage access in Active Directory. 
> (Shilen and Rob) 15 min.
>  
> -What’s New with Grouper 1.6.   (Chris and TomZ) 30 minutes  - Grouper Kim 
> workflow
>     - Notification proof of concept demo.
>     - demo using web services to define permissions.
>     - TomZ on Ldappc - ng (start with recap, clarify that Grouper data 
> connection for Shib is included)
> 
> -  Issues posed by attendees
> 
> *Performance*
> 
> Due to the full agenda, there won't be an presentation on performance 
> issues at the SMM Grouper WG session.   
> TomB will create a list of performance issues to think about later, 
> possibly including:
> 
> -Impact of Flattened Memberships on performance and queries
> 
>  - Write operations for group management
> (affects composite groups)
> 
> - Rendering memberships of extremely large groups 
> 
> - Should limited queries be allowed to increase response time, i.e., “give 
> me all groups that Joe belongs to but only in a particular stem “ 
>  
> [AI] (TomB) will create a list of performance issues for discussion later.  
> 
> *Grouper 1.6 Release*
> 
> Rob's ESB connector work will be included in  the release of Grouper 1.6,
>  with a caveat that it is experimental.
> 
> Integration testing for the ESB connector is complex, involving systems 
> beyond Grouper itself.
> What about using web services to test, or adding a servlet in the web XML?
> 
> [AI] (Rob) will look at issues relating to testing the ESB Connector.
> 
> It was noted that ldappc also poses challenges for end to end testing.
> 
> [AI] (SteveO) will provide Rob with SVN credentials.
> 
> Friday May 7 is the code freeze for Grouper 1.6
>  
> There will be a special "off week" call to discuss the release on Wed. May 
> 5.
> 
> 
> Next Meeting:  At Internet2 Spring Member Meeting, Monday, April 26, 
> 10:30am - noon
> http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/agenda.cfm?go=session&id=10001170&event=910
> 
> Next Call:  Wed. May 12, noon ET
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Emily Eisbruch, Technology Transfer Analyst
> Internet2
> 
> office: +1-734-352-4996 | mobile +1-734-730-5749
> 
> Internet2 Spring Member Meeting
> April 26-28, 2010 - Arlington, Virginia
> http://events.internet2.edu/2010/spring-mm/
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Steve Olshansky
Internet2 Middleware & Security Flywheel
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