Grouper Developers Forum

[Kathryn Huxtable <>]

Dan, Hibernate isn't a database, it's a database independent persistence
mechanism for Java. It works with Postgres. I use it with Oracle, but it
doesn't really matter much.

-K


On 1/23/07 8:19 AM, "dan" 
<>
 wrote:

> FYI, we're using Postgres (8.1, I think), not Hibernate. Current dev
> platform is stock OSX Tiger, Java 1.5, mostly using Eclipse 3.2 + a
> whole lotta plugins.
> 
> In simple terms, we want to take people's user and group repos,
> usually LDAPish (Active Directory, eDirectory, OpenLDAP etc), apply
> groups and permissions in a simple and unified manner, and do single
> sign-on (i.e. Shibboleth) and privilege management against a wide
> range of 3rd party web apps. We are also doing centralised
> administration of application settings. Nothing too dramatic there.
> 
> Which reminds me - how do you usually push your group and privilege
> information out to other applications? Say you've got a mail app that
> needs groups, and reads those groups from its own text file format, or
> a photo sharing application which needs to know if a user has a
> "publish" privilege. How does one model those scenarios in the
> Grouper/Signet universe?
> 
> Please excuse my general ignorance of the field, this is quite new to me.
> 
> Regards,
> Dan
> 
> On 1/24/07, Tom Barton 
> <>
>  wrote:
>> I run signet 1.0.1 with grouper 1.1 in the same jvm using subject 0.2.1
>> and hibernate 1.7.2 (the earlier version that ships with grouper). Some
>> care must be taken with forming the union of the two products' 3rd
>> parties libs - with the exception noted above, keep the later version of
>> any 3rd party lib in common.
>> 
>> I hear the sound of potential volunteerism! I'm very interested to learn
>> more about what you're attempting to do.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> dan wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> We're attempting to use grouper+signet to manage groups/permissions
>>> together from an LDAP data source.
>>> 
>>> Signet 1.0.1 doesn't appear to ship with a version of Subject API that
>>> speaks LDAP. It generally seems to be a generation behind the current
>>> stable Grouper in terms of library versions.
>>> 
>>> My question is: which are the best versions to use for signet+grouper
>>> integration, with a view to incorporating shibboleth in the near future?
>>> We have a tight deadline, but as we're an R&D project we're happy to
>>> live on the edge and use CVS HEAD if that's what it takes. We really,
>>> really want to prove to ourselves that the I2MI can satisfy our need to
>>> manage groups/permissions/signon from multiple LDAP sources (some of
>>> which may be read-only).
>>> 
>>> If there are any experts out there would would be able to point me in
>>> the right direction, I would be forever grateful. We would be happy to
>>> contribute our experiences, expertise and even coding resources back to
>>> the project if we can prove that it's a viable solution for us. Without
>>> giving too much away (because I'm not sure I'm allowed yet), we are a
>>> company that provides online services to millions of users in the
>>> education market. We have a proprietary product that works fine but is
>>> difficult to maintain and extend, and for this and other reasons moving
>>> to an OSS platform which can scale to meet our requirements is very
>>> desirable.
>>> 
>>> Am happy to have a Skype conference call if people can tell me when
>>> they'll be awake and ready to chat.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan
>>