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Re: Better than POTS telecommunications conference service.


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  • From: Jeremy George <>
  • To: Ben Teitelbaum <>
  • Cc: <>, Walt Magnussen <>, <>, <>, Debra Duncan <>, Lance Parr <>, Mark Herro <>, <>, <>
  • Subject: Re: Better than POTS telecommunications conference service.
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:51:38 -0500 (EST)


I don't understand the focus on conferencing. SIPconf is only one
element of the Cinema suite of products offered by Prof. Schulzrinne's
spinoff company, SIP Communications (www.sipcomm.com). If a
significantly better codec than G.711 might implemented, it would be
much more powerfully used in common two-party sip-sip communication.

In that case I'd be interested in looking at it in our SIP
implementation here.

- Jeremy

On 1 Jan 2002, Ben Teitelbaum wrote:

> Date: 01 Jan 2002 14:04:47 -0500
> From: Ben Teitelbaum
> <>
> To:
>
> Cc: Walt Magnussen
> <>,
>
> ,
>
> ,
> Debra Duncan
> <>,
> Lance Parr
> <>,
> Mark Herro
> <>,
>
>
> Subject: Re: Better than POTS telecommunications conference service.
>
> A few corrections and clarifications...
>
> The SIP conferencing server that Walt refers to is sipconf
> (http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/papers/iptel2001/19.pdf).
>
> > ...
> > We have an opportunity to have a vendor add the GIPs codec to an
> > existing SIP phone if we can show the need.
>
> Actually, PingTel has licensed and intends to implement GIPS iPCM-wb
> regardless of what we do. Snom has likewise licensed its wideband
> codec from GIPS. The key issue is whether GIPS is willing to license
> the codec to Columbia at reasonable terms for inclusion in sipconf.
> Henning is in discussion with key people at GIPS about this. If these
> discussions are not fruitful, the key issue is whether we can persuade
> PingTel and other handset vendors to implement an openly available
> wideband codec like G.722.
>
> > We are proposing to
> > install one conf bridge at Colombia and possibly one conf bridge
> > at TAMU to be used for Internet2 Work Group audio conferences.
> >
>
> Not exactly. What we are proposing is that UCAID install and operate
> one sipconf bridge for WG calls and internal UCAID use. If this works
> out, we are hoping that campuses might spin up their own nodes for
> bridged calls initiated by their faculty, students, staff.
>
> > If Columbia and TAMU were to fund the conf bridges how many
> > institutions would be willing to purchase one or more of these
> > SIP phones. We would not charge for UCAID use of the conf bridge
> > service. The phones cost about $550 each.
> >
> > Please email your intent so that we can get back to the vendor.
> > This is not a commitment by either your University or
> > UCAID/Columbia/TAMU at this time. We are only trying to get and
> > idea of interest.
>
> Right. The purpose of this exercise is to gauge the potential market
> within Internet2 for SIP handsets capable of supporting a wideband
> codec. A good metric might be the number of individuals on your
> campus who are heavy conference bridge users (where "heavy" might mean
> more than 1 hr/week). If we can credibly claim that there is a
> potentially large market for such phones in Internet2, it will help
> certain handset vendors justify Internet2 membership and investment in
> "seeding" the marketplace.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- ben
>
>

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