wg-pic - Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site
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- From: Peter Saint-Andre <>
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- Cc: Tim Callahan <>
- Subject: Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site
- Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:58:01 -0600
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On 8/9/12 2:18 PM, Tim Callahan wrote:
> In short, there are reasons not to trust the outside world, so
> requirements are given (mandated) on who to trust; some
> requirements are local policy, some are regulatory (HIPAA, etc.)
> Some sites have identity management concerns, where the foreign
> site needs to meet certain requirements of identity assurance and
> accountability.
Amusingly, most folks federate their email servers by default without
any policy enforcement. Or so it seems from the outside.
> Some sites require encrypted server to server connections.
Yes, that can be difficult (although it's close to impossible for
SMTP, which doesn't seem to stop federated email!).
> It can also be as simple as "this account for business use only"
> I'm sure members of our list can think of many more reasons.
>
> I thought they were offering encrypted S2S federation, but in
> hindsight, I'm not sure. They do require encryption for clients
> though. The link to their IM page
> <http://www.oit.uci.edu/computing/im/> gives more info.
In my experience, it is much easier to offer encrypted
client-to-server. Sadly, not enough servers correctly do encrypted
server-to-server, so the failure rate discourages deployment. It's
really something we need to fix! (There are special challenges with
virtual hosting environments, which we're working on in the IETF's
XMPP WG....)
Peter
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- [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Tim Callahan, 08/09/2012
- Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Michael Van Norman, 08/09/2012
- Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Tim Callahan, 08/09/2012
- Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Peter Saint-Andre, 08/09/2012
- Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Tim Callahan, 08/09/2012
- Re: [wg-pic] Fwd: UC Irvine as Jabber/XMPP site, Michael Van Norman, 08/09/2012
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