Presence and IntComm WG

[Elaine Lauerman <>]

Next call: March 6, 2008
Starting Time: 4:00 PM US/Eastern
Occurs: Every Thursday
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Attendees:

Tim Callahan (chair) - Michigan
Rodney McDuff - Queensland
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Jorj Bauer - Penn
Mark Sirotaa - Penn
Mike LaHaye - Internet2
Dan Pritts - Internet2
Elaine Lauerman (scribe) - Internet2

*Action Items as of February 28th


[ACTION] (1/31) Mark will document how to automate account creation in
Openfire.
(2/21) done

[ACTION] (1/24) Elaine will find out what the demo-planning
deadlines are, e.g.,
when we need to have information ready for inclusion in printed materials
or
posting on the web site.
(2/21) - technical requirements due February
29th
- Member Update due March 7th 
Is this what we want submitted? 
The internet2 presence and integrated communications working
group  
will be running a live interactive demo of presence and integrated 
communications technology, see our web site for more information.
[need to include url]
- sign with graphic and text due April 1st
- pocket guide inclusion due April 1st
- web page due April 11th
http://pic.internet2.edu/trials/index.html
http://pic.internet2.edu/trials/200404-trial.html

[ACTION] (1/17) Rodney will continue working to document
hardware requirements
for production versions of PIC.edu.
(2/21) in process - Rodney is still gathering
information. 

[ACTION] All - Determine who can manage a production server after
the SMM

[ACTION] (1/17) Tim will launch an email discussion of what to call the
PIC.edu
service, in context of how we want to present the demo.
(2/21) still outstanding.  This should reflect
what it is and how it differs from commercial
offerings.

[ACTION] (12/6) Tim will contact Dorothy Williams and Ed Humphrey
about working
on PIC.edu server documentation.
(2/7) on hold for now

[ACTION] (12/6) Tim will send wg-pic a proposal for which features
the initial
PIC.edu client table should cover.
(2/21) still outstanding

[ACTION] (11/1) Tim will put the draft PIC.edu project objectives
on the wiki
and invite people to start contributing there.
(2/28) Elaine to fix permissions so documents can
be posted.

[ACTION] (11/1) Tim will ask SIP.edu participants for their
insights on how to
proceed with PIC.edu, and in particular how to handle user generation
and
management.
(2/7) this will be done during the SMM and after
the demo

[ACTION] (7/12) Mark will prepare a simple demo of anonymous and
non-anonymous
versions of moderated and unmoderated Jabber chatrooms, for a PIC call in
early
2008.
(2/7) keep as a place holder, not a priority at
this point.


*Discussion*

SMM task list
- Setup 4 chat rooms

- How will we create accounts? Use federated id? Possibly use campus
identity management?

- Should we use a web based client? Use jw-chat or jeti? Come up with the
top 2 possibilities.
Have a table of potential clients based on operating system. Get web
based client to work. 
We need to point out the differences between the demo last time it was
showcased and
now. Last time was SIP based this time is XMPP. 

- How should we market the demo?  Get details about the demo
prepared for SMM document inclusion.
[ACTION] (2/6) Deke will put together group
collaboration for content
2/22 -- (1) Good technology, ready to be used by lots of people
(2) Good marketing, to get people to participate
*inclusion into the pocket guide and handout and the registration table
(Elaine to get approval)
(3) Good participation by the workgroup members, to help with the
inevitable problems.
- Need to articulate how identity fits into the demo (open enrollment,
kick the tires, what the demo is about).
- Need to let members know how easy it is to set up
- Communicate what our goal is 'every campus running a jabber server'
discuss why this would be
a good thing.

- Sponsorship issues; How can institutions participate?
Could/should Internet2 take on the role of
creating a Jabber accounts?  Who is providing the server? 
Someone needs to take on enabling
presence service, who? 
[ACTION] Elaine to talk to Ellen Vaughan about the
possiblity of a corporate member donating
equipment for a PIC server.  Maybe Google who is already a member
otherwise maybe approach
Jabber.com, their server is very good. It would be nice to get a number
of licences from them. 
Elaine will investigate but a proposal needs to be written up for Ellen
to approach
a corporate member so she understands the project scope.

[ACTION] 2/7 Mike LaHaye joined the call to let the group know how
Internet2 will set up shib accounts.
Will we use shib accounts? This is an ongoing discussion.  
(2/28) LDAP or Comanage decision will be made April 1st.

- Ship equipment from Penn on 4/16 for 4/18 arrival
- On-site technical requirements and tasks
 * network configuration done on 4/19
 * confirm no port blocking in meeting rooms
 * configuration will not effect networks outside the Internet2
meeting network
 * two boxes (one a spare)
 * need a couple of ip addresses
 * Randy Stout would like someone to join the K20 Advisory Council
for a primer on PIC and how
    members can participate.
 * demo hours Monday - Wednesday (need to
identify start and end times)
 * have a PIC table set up to promote demo and field
questions
 * have handouts available at the PIC table and possibly something
at the registration table
 * set up account for 3 days

- We've reserved a SMM Tuesday breakfast slot  for a PIC side
meeting.
[ACTION] what do we need to do to prepare for
it?

- need IDP on campus if not available use Protect Network

- need to get shib credentials to a Jabber server

- cookbook should include notes on "how to"
[ACTION]2/21 Post Jabber implementation from Penn,
MIT, Wisc and Washington to the wiki (Deke, Tim and Denis)

submitted by: Elaine Lauerman

Elaine Lauerman, Program Manager, Internet2 Events and The Commons
Internet2

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